klaus kinski Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ May 28, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) Who cares? He is a professional basketball player. I don't care about Memphis and root for the Bulls. It has no standing on his NBA career. I'll forget about this in a couple months. This comment is everything thats wrong with the basketball system. Go to a school-screw the grades I 'm gonna be a millionaire. The hell with someone who wants to be in any other profession. One conversation with this guy and the school knew he was an idiot. They are all responsible, including the player. Maybe you will forget it in a couple of months, but someone with a kid in college, legitimatly paying for their more deserving kid to get a real education, should detest this and never forget it, or it keeps happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 10:23 AM) This comment is everything thats wrong with the basketball system. Go to a school-screw the grades I 'm gonna be a millionaire. The hell with someone who wants to be in any other profession. One conversation with this guy and the school knew he was an idiot. They are all responsible, including the player. Maybe you will forget it in a couple of months, but someone with a kid in college, legitimatly paying for their more deserving kid to get a real education, should detest this and never forget it, or it keeps happening. I am disappointed with his HS altercations, not his SAT altercations. The NBA age limit is silly rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The interesting part is that if we were talking about a real world job here, Rose would get fired for lying on his application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) The interesting part is that if we were talking about a real world job here, Rose would get fired for lying on his application. I dont really think that is true at all. If you are the 20 year old future of the company and you are making them massive money, they arent going to fire you for your application. In fact if this was a real job Rose would have been recruited by multiple employers (every NBA team) and would have been able to have them bid against each other for his services, instead of being forced to sign a league mandated contract. {Edit} And what does it matter what the European school system is like, how is it fair that if Rose was in Spain he could enter the NBA draft at 18, but if Rose is in the USA he has to wait? Edited June 2, 2009 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Link Memphis was unable to find proof a former player cheated on his SAT exam in its internal investigation of NCAA allegations against the men's basketball team. The investigation report, released to The Associated Press and other news outlets Tuesday under a public records request, details Memphis' internal investigation into allegations that a former player -- widely reported to be Derrick Rose -- allowed a stand-in to take his SAT test and of grade tampering. School officials argue that even if the NCAA's Committee on Infractions believes a former player cheated, the program should not be penalized because the school was unaware of any wrongdoing. Memphis was first notified by the NCAA by e-mail in May 2008, one month after the Tigers lost to Kansas in the NCAA championship game, that star point guard Rose had an invalidated standardized test score the previous year at Chicago's Simeon High School, multiple sources with direct knowledge of an e-mail told ESPN.com. Most names in the report released Tuesday were redacted by Memphis because of privacy concerns, but multiple sources have told ESPN.com that representatives of Rose did tell Memphis he took the SAT in question. The report said the school had no reason to suspect the SAT was fraudulent until notified by Educational Testing Service that the player's score had been canceled. That letter came May 5, 2008, after Rose's only season at Memphis. "The university ... took all reasonable steps to confirm that [name redacted] had met eligibility requirements," the report states. Memphis will present its findings to the Committee on Infractions on Saturday in Indianapolis. Former coach John Calipari is expected to participate by phone. The NCAA also alleges an employee at Rose's high school changed a grade so a C would show up on his transcript instead of a D. The player then used the test score and the transcript to enroll at Memphis. A 2007 investigation by the school into the grade-tampering charge determined that even if the grade had been changed, he was still eligible for admission. Athletic director R.C. Johnson has said the school checks out potentials athletes, but has refused to detail efforts to investigate. Kentucky officials were aware of the allegations when they hired Calipari and believe the coach was open and honest about the situation. Johnson interviewed several high-profile coaches when Calipari left, but couldn't lure them to Memphis. So he turned to 31-year-old Calipari assistant Josh Pastner. Pastner, who has said he knew nothing about the investigation before being hired, was excused from participation because of a previous commitment. NCAA officials notified Memphis on Jan. 16 of the "knowing fraudulence or misconduct" that occurred in 2007-08. The Tigers won 38 games that season and were the national runnerup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 12:48 PM) Link If it were true that Rose did not cheat and he did, in fact, take the SAT, then he would have come out and said so. His silence, to me, means that he is guilty. Why else would he be quiet? If he did take, he would be out championing that he took the test and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 07:47 AM) If it were true that Rose did not cheat and he did, in fact, take the SAT, then he would have come out and said so. His silence, to me, means that he is guilty. Why else would he be quiet? If he did take, he would be out championing that he took the test and so on. Rose denied it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Ron Guenther, Illinois AD, giving leverage to the shoe conspiracy: “We understood what was going on (with Rose) all along,” Guenther told the Champaign News-Gazette. “The sport of men’s basketball has issues that the NCAA has been trying to address. There are many tentacles to the problem, so there is no magic bullet to solve it. It has been a focal point for discussions in this conference for more than 10 years. We’ve had task forces looking into the AAU, the shoe money, the agent.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ May 29, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) Who was it that robbed a 7-11, in his DePaul letterman's jacket, six months after graduation he left DePaul? Skip Dillard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 07:42 AM) Rose denied it already. Publicly or via his "people"? I haven't seen him say anything to reporters yet. Unless, he comes out and publicly denies it, I know he is lying even though he probably is lying anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:20 AM) Publicly or via his "people"? I haven't seen him say anything to reporters yet. Unless, he comes out and publicly denies it, I know he is lying even though he probably is lying anyway. wtf dude, who cares. This is kinda ridiculous logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 08:24 AM) wtf dude, who cares. This is kinda ridiculous logic. I don't really think so. If he is guilty, he stays quiet. If he is innocent, he speaks out on his behalf. Not so crazy logic. This also says a lot about the Bulls future superstar's character if he isn't man enough to face the media regardless of his guilt or innocence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 12:00 PM) I don't really think so. If he is guilty, he stays quiet. If he is innocent, he speaks out on his behalf. Not so crazy logic. This also says a lot about the Bulls future superstar's character if he isn't man enough to face the media regardless of his guilt or innocence. So Roger Clemens is innocent because he denies anything to do with steroids? And so is Bonds, because he denies knowingly using HGH/Roids? Your logic doesnt make any sense..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 02:33 AM) Ron Guenther, Illinois AD, giving leverage to the shoe conspiracy: “We understood what was going on (with Rose) all along,” Guenther told the Champaign News-Gazette. “The sport of men’s basketball has issues that the NCAA has been trying to address. There are many tentacles to the problem, so there is no magic bullet to solve it. It has been a focal point for discussions in this conference for more than 10 years. We’ve had task forces looking into the AAU, the shoe money, the agent.” It didn't stop Illinois from going after him. They just got pissed because Reggie & Co. wanted Weber to not only give up some dough, but supplement the money lost he would've gotten from Adidas for going to an Adidas school. But alas, even Guenther knows about the shoe money and the funneling of cash through the AAU team circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 01:00 PM) So Roger Clemens is innocent because he denies anything to do with steroids? And so is Bonds, because he denies knowingly using HGH/Roids? Your logic doesnt make any sense..... Well exactly. Derrick is innocent because he said he didn't do it? If that's the case anyway, how come it took him a couple of weeks, hell you could say a year as he was notified along with Memphis at the end of the tourney about it, to discuss the matter with the media or NCAA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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