Heads22 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 hahah a bulldozer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) There could be a lot of very, very good young (or younger) players hitting the market between now and mid-season 2010 so it wouldn't hurt at all to keep our options open. Teams to watch closely if you're the Sox: Marlins - Hanley and Josh Johnson; although probably unlikely with the new stadium, they're still the Marlins Padres - obvious, but also Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez Cubs - seriously, they've got $120M committed in 2010 without figuring for arbitration, draft, etc. and are going through an ownership change... how funny would it be if the new owners, instead of adding Peavy, felt they needed to dump ARam or Zambrano? I'd LOL. Phillies - should be around a $100M payroll next year committed with no additions Rockies - Street, Cook, Atkins probably all go soon, also Hawpe, still hurting from Helton's contract Toronto - $81M committed next year not figuring draft, arb, etc. Alex Rios should hit the block at least since Wells is probably immovable Edit: Here's the link where I got the payroll info. It looks like the Sox, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, and Orioles are all in position to make some big additions going forward. The Yanks as well if they're going to maintain a $200M payroll, also potentially the Mets if they're going to stay in the $120M+ range. Edited May 29, 2009 by Kenny Hates Prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Oakland could be a seller as well. Holliday has been talked about a LOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Holliday is a Borass client though. The only other pieces they've got are Crosby and Chavez (bad contracts), Ellis (don't need or want), and OC, who is not coming back. Duchshererhjhahjhsaf could be a possibility if he's healthy, and Casilla is a guy I like, but those aren't major pieces. Everything else is very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ May 29, 2009 -> 12:29 AM) Alex Rios should hit the block at least since Wells is probably immovable I've always wanted to see Rios in a Sox uni, but at a much lower cost than what he's being paid right now, and I don't think he can play CF which sucks anyone else think he looks like Javy's twin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 In case we want to play telephone again. Roy Oswalt has played with and can call the following White Sox. Dotel Linebrink Geoff Blum Darin Erstad Joe McEwing (White Sox minor league coach) Watch How Far I Can Stretch! Keith Ginter Daryle Ward Why wouldn't he want to play for the team that crushed his hopes and dreams back in 2005? .....and who's his best friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Houston has a horrible farm system. They need quantity in any trade. If Houston can get a deal similar to the Peavy package, they'd be happy. Now, who's to say Oswalt would be though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Oswalt is a guy we would be looking at. I just don't know if Houston wants get rid of him just yet. Toronto would have be blown away get rid of Halladay and if beckham isnt in it with others than that's not happening. Bedard, is name that also that appears that kenny likes and might try hard to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 29, 2009 -> 05:10 AM) .....and who's his best friend? all I see is a plastered Jake Peavy ... If the Sox were willing to take on Peavy, they are more than willing to take Oswalt. Again, it would be all up to Oswalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 i do hope people understand that padres are more in a need get rid of peavy than the stros of oswalt. For instance, the asking price could be alot different and could start with name beckham in that trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Erstad is on Houston. Bring him back, BA was 0-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (OilCan @ May 28, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad... Roy-Os best days are behind him. Yes indeed, but what needs to be considered is this; are his current days a significant upgrade from the current days of the rest of this staff? A declining Thome (for example) is a upgrade from most other DHs in baseball. (To pull an example out thing air) The danger, and what you are probably alluding to, how fast and hard will the decline be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:25 AM) Someone reads SoxTalk. That's right! This site broke that story a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 How has the name Hunter Pence not come up? Wanna rebuild a farm system..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:58 AM) How has the name Hunter Pence not come up? Wanna rebuild a farm system..... I think because Houston doesnt want to get rid of him, they probably want to build around him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:58 AM) How has the name Hunter Pence not come up? Wanna rebuild a farm system..... Hunter Pence was selected in the second round of the 2004 draft. The White Sox had 5 of the first 60 picks. They picked Fields, Lunsden, Gio, Whisler and Lucy before Houston selected Pence. Its one of the reasons while I don't get excited late first round and second round compensation picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'd like a pass at Chris Young the pitcher as well although his control has gotten away from him a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 all I see is a plastered Jake Peavy ... If the Sox were willing to take on Peavy, they are more than willing to take Oswalt. Again, it would be all up to Oswalt. Read the file description. Oswalt is wearing black on the right hand side of the first picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 If the asking price is less than what it is for Peavy, I'm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 No to RO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ May 29, 2009 -> 12:01 PM) If the asking price is less than what it is for Peavy, I'm down. ^^^^^^^^^^^ this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 29, 2009 -> 08:35 AM) Erstad is on Houston. Bring him back, BA was 0-4. Don't worry, Wise is on his way up to make sure BA only gets 8 AB's a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Man...that's an awful lot of money he's owed. I know we have money coming off the books, but for a guy his age, that's steep. There's going to have to be cash coming back if they want a package anywhere close to what we offered for Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) Man...that's an awful lot of money he's owed. I know we have money coming off the books, but for a guy his age, that's steep. There's going to have to be cash coming back if they want a package anywhere close to what we offered for Peavy. That makes sense from the WS perspective. However, if I'm the next GM, I'm thinking they were willing to give up that before, but it couldn't get done, they will offer at least that, plus more, or receive less, to get the next deal done. I'm certainly not going to allow them a better deal. The cats out of the bag. Makes the next negotiation that much tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ May 29, 2009 -> 12:05 PM) That makes sense from the WS perspective. However, if I'm the next GM, I'm thinking they were willing to give up that before, but it couldn't get done, they will offer at least that, plus more, or receive less, to get the next deal done. I'm certainly not going to allow them a better deal. The cats out of the bag. Makes the next negotiation that much tougher. Does Houston necessarily know who the PTBNL were or at least who was on the list? With that contract, you could interest me in something like Oswalt for Poreda and Richard straight up...no money exchanging hands...but you're simply not getting extra young pitching talent off of me...but with the Peavy trade, extra young talent was hidden as 2 PTBNL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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