LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Foulke is walking no matter who he is with in 2003. so, and then we would get a comp pick, but he would have help us this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. Yeah, those were the intentions...but seemingly someone would have made sure Koch was healthy enough to actually do it. and whose fault is that????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. Thats it Murcie...long-term we are better off...cause Foulke is walking, hopefully someone can straighten out Koch, and Cotts has a potential future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I, by no means, am defending KW...just Koch....Kw and the advanced scouting is to lay this on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I, by no means, am defending KW...just Koch....Kw and the advanced scouting is to lay this on now i remember hearing that people were mentioning their concerns of botch's arm. but kw did not listen as he did not listen to others who mention that clayton was a clubhouse cance, that dlo was a jerk in the clubhouse. so what does this tell you, kw doesn't not listen b/d he is all knowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. alright LDF..... Then give props to KW for getting Alomar and Everett, and Colon. Because at the end of the year...if they sign elsewhere... we get those 1st rnd picks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. Thats it Murcie...long-term we are better off...cause Foulke is walking, hopefully someone can straighten out Koch, and Cotts has a potential future. and what about that comp pick> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 :fyou colon..............ill give time for alomar and everett to work out .. but not much time......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Colon,....thats a whole other story..but not one that can be blamed on KW, for once. The guy just doesnt give a damn apparently..or he doesnt want to be a power pitcher anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. alright LDF..... Then give props to KW for getting Alomar and Everett, and Colon. Because at the end of the year...if they sign elsewhere... we get those 1st rnd picks as well. he is finally seeing the light in which the sCrubs, atl and oak has use the system to help them in farm i was and still am in favor of getting colon and gave my congrats to kw, until i read that the yank may have been the mastermind dehind the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 :fyou colon..............ill give time for alomar and everett to work out .. but not much time......... bartolo is a saint.... i wont stand for any critcism of that man.... his epics are homeric.. ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 The worst trade KW has made....was Durham for Adkins....Ray was at .290 when he was traded. and all we got was that buster ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances. or they could be prior, wood, peavy, and some of the better know prospects. i would rather have foulke now and a chance to win now and take that crap shot at a comp pick. i don't know about you, but i am tired or waiting for tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 The worst trade KW has made....was Durham for Adkins....Ray was at .290 when he was traded. and all we got was that buster ass. that is one, the clayton, the berry berry, well trade to name a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Colon,....thats a whole other story..but not one that can be blamed on KW, for once. The guy just doesnt give a damn apparently..or he doesnt want to be a power pitcher anymore. ..someone needs to lite a bon fire under his lazy ass if what you say is the truth capn...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances. or they could be prior, wood, peavy, and some of the better know prospects. i would rather have foulke now and a chance to win now and take that crap shot at a comp pick. i don't know about you, but i am tired or waiting for tomorrow f*** yeah, me too...but I dont think that we have lost too many games based on the closer alone. There are SO many problems with this team, at least there were early in April and May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I still long for Ray-ray at second (at least till we got Alomar, but he'll be gone after this year). Sure, he went into Ray Durham, Homerun hitter mode at some point every year, but I still liked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 that is the long term hopes, why was this trade made? again what did kw say he made this trade. answer to help us this yr, to solidify the bullpen this yr, to give us a closer that can come in and close the game. The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances. or they could be prior, wood, peavy, and some of the better know prospects. i would rather have foulke now and a chance to win now and take that crap shot at a comp pick. i don't know about you, but i am tired or waiting for tomorrow f*** yeah, me too...but I dont think that we have lost too many games based on the closer alone. There are SO many problems with this team, at least there were early in April and May. i neve said nothing about anything else, only those who was defending botch. that is how this came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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