Dick Allen Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) And the reason they are in the lineup is because Ozzie is an idiot/Kenny is an idiot. I blame Walker for the lack of any good plate discipline by anyone except maybe Konerko. And yes, Fields is a major league talent. As is Brian. You should be the hitting coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) Getz and his .600 OPS will be hard to replace. But that stat doesn't count grinderness and heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxmanager Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Don't watch NL games...good lord, do those teams suck. exactly. i would rather watch womens NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) Because nobody who had good numbers in the minor leagues has come up to the big leagues and not succeeded. Who was the hitting coach? The arguement you made is that BA and Fields never had any talent. That's B.S, they just haven't realized it when they got to the Majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:45 PM) exactly. i would rather watch womens NBA. I won't go THAT far. Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:45 PM) You should be the hitting coach. Lol, good one. YOU GOT ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) exactly. i would rather watch womens NBA. ACL tears and hyphenated names are fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Who was the hitting coach? The arguement you made is that BA and Fields never had any talent. That's B.S, they just haven't realized it when they got to the Majors. Who has left the White Sox and gone on to rake with another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Bring back Von Joshua!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) Oh DJ, how did Kansas City ever let you get away? Why the hate on DJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 No offense, Stoney, but who cares what Detroit is doing if we suck? AHHHHHHHHHH-CHOOOO! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Who was the hitting coach? The arguement you made is that BA and Fields never had any talent. That's B.S, they just haven't realized it when they got to the Majors. My arguement is that BA and Fields don't have major league talent above a .230 or .240 batting average and an OPS over .700 Is that what you'd accept as OK? Then stop head-hunting for Greg Walker, because these two kids just aren't very smart to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 Ah-choo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) Why the hate on DJ? No hate. I love what he's done with us. Not quite sure how he's figured it out, but he's fit perfectly into his role on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) I'm not watching today's game, but I'd like to point out DJ's ERA is down to god damn 2.21 in a lot of IPs pitched. He has like the worst stuff in baseball. Someone explain it. Also, make him our 5 starter. Edited June 7, 2009 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 08:49 PM) No hate. I love what he's done with us. Not quite sure how he's figured it out, but he's fit perfectly into his role on the team. Ok, I'm all for ripping on about 90 pct of our guys, but him and Thornton are the two guys that deserve absolutely no criticism this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 08:50 PM) I'm not watching today's game, but I'd like to point out DJ's ERA is down to god damn 2.21. He has like the worst stuff in baseball. Someone explain it. Also, make him our 5 starter. He does a great job of changing speeds and angles. He's a virtual waste right now in his role, as he only pitches in blow outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:48 PM) My arguement is that BA and Fields don't have major league talent above a .230 or .240 batting average and an OPS over .700 Is that what you'd accept as OK? Then stop head-hunting for Greg Walker, because these two kids just aren't very smart to begin with My argument is that these kids had and have promise that was never fulfilled at the Major League Level. These guys were great Minor League players who failed to carry sustained success into their major leaguer performance. While you can blame a large part of that on mindset, are you going to tell me that the hitting coach escapes all blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Nothing DJ throws goes straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Who has left the White Sox and gone on to rake with another team? Carlos Lee When he was with the Sox he was all over the place. Look at 2002 and 2003 for example. One year he's walking more than he's striking out, and the other he not walking and striking out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) My argument is that these kids had and have promise that was never fulfilled at the Major League Level. These guys were great Minor League players who failed to carry sustained success into their major leaguer performance. While you can blame a large part of that on mindset, are you going to tell me that the hitting coach escapes all blame? He doesn't hold enough blame to lose his job because minor league "Studs" Brian Anderson and Josh Fields, can't get it done at the big league level How many teams do you think would trade for Brian or Josh? Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 i actually feel sorry for Whisler. Do other teams call up starters and put them in the pen like the Sox do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:50 PM) He does a great job of changing speeds and angles. He's a virtual waste right now in his role, as he only pitches in blow outs. Also is around the plate and throws strikes. Great concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) My argument is that these kids had and have promise that was never fulfilled at the Major League Level. These guys were great Minor League players who failed to carry sustained success into their major leaguer performance. While you can blame a large part of that on mindset, are you going to tell me that the hitting coach escapes all blame? Fields hit .275 with 512 strikeouts in 1685 minor league at bats. He was and is far from a sure thing, no matter who the hitting coach is. He can't catch up to fastballs. That's not Greg Walker's fault. Anderson may develop but whether it was his fault or the organization's his growth was stunted the past couple of years. Sometimes you don't get that back. Again, BA hitting .250 instead of .300 and blaming Greg Walker is about as dumb as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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