TylerAtIU Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Guess it doesnt matter.. 0-12 Still better then fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 02:31 AM) Did thome really feel the need to take himself out of scoring position with Bacon coming up WTF Jeff Cox is bad at his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's going to take Beckham FOREVER to figure it out if he doesn't start seeing some f***ing pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 So surprising to see us actually take advantage of a power who has nothing. If Bonderman pitched the same he had tonight, but was a rookie making his first appearance against the white sox, we would be stifled right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 So, is Beckham like Anderson and Nix where they're only in the majors for their defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerAtIU Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:33 PM) So, is Beckham like Anderson and Nix where they're only in the majors for their defense? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:33 PM) So, is Beckham like Anderson and Nix where they're only in the majors for their defense? Beckham has a ton of errors in the minors. So I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) So, is Beckham like Anderson and Nix where they're only in the majors for their defense? Not until Wise is playing ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Perhaps when Beckham forces himself to take more pitches, even if they look hittable, just so he can start getting used to pitchers release points that he hasn't faced before, or he might just need more looks at these guys, he'll start hitting the ball like we know he can he doesn't look good though, but he needs to still play every single day if he's up here, sitting on the bench is the wrong way to groom him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 we're back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Nordhagen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) Not until Wise is playing ahead of him. I think a lefty 3rd basemen would complete this year for me. Bring on Dweezy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:32 PM) It's going to take Beckham FOREVER to figure it out if he doesn't start seeing some f***ing pitches. Beckham needs to do a better job on working the count. He seems like he is trying too hard and coming up emtpy. He needs to relax at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 the count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) Well, if Ventura can survive it (0 for 41, Gordon only has 29 more to go), I think Beckham can too...although I would be genuinely surprised if Beckham ended up having a better career in Chicago than Robin. So I guess the next question is what happens with Jose and Bartolo? Do we move Colon to the bullpen? Seems pretty logical...KW can shop him to an NL team, but not sure if he could get much of anything back in return. Probably like one of the many Sandy Alomar trades, a fringe pitcher ala Emenencio Pacheco. Edited June 9, 2009 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerAtIU Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hey BA hit it to the right of 2nd base, I consider that a HUGE accomplishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 02:34 AM) Really? Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I was watching game 5 vs the Halos, on MLB the other day. I forgot how good the count was and was just glued to the TV. Maybe getting sent down woke him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (That funky motion @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 07:46 PM) I was watching game 5 vs the Halos, on MLB the other day. I forgot how good the count was and was just glued to the TV. Maybe getting sent down woke him up. Well, I thought the situation was that he went to Ozzie and asked to start in AAA to work on his control and conditioning (not to mention his forkball) rather than going to the bullpen in Chicago. There were always concerns from Ozzie and KW whether he could ever be effectively pitching out of the bullpen, although he did do it for a few games a couple of seasons ago, then went back into the rotation again for the remainder of the season. Wow, the Tigers are 1 for 21 today. Pretty good time for Jose to break out a decent game. Managed to lower his ERA to 6.69 in one game. Edited June 9, 2009 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (That funky motion @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:46 PM) I was watching game 5 vs the Halos, on MLB the other day. I forgot how good the count was and was just glued to the TV. Maybe getting sent down woke him up. Or maybe the guy is such a f***ing gamer he hurried back from what many of us thought was a career ending injury so he could play for this team again which led to a small mechanical flaw and a lack of feel pitches. Or maybe he just doesnt have balls like alot of the people on here say about Floyd....at least when he is losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerAtIU Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 What happened to Tigers pitching? I feel like every starter they had from the past few years are all now in the bullpen with the exception of Verlander of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 07:51 PM) Or maybe the guy is such a f***ing gamer he hurried back from what many of us thought was a career ending injury so he could play for this team again which led to a small mechanical flaw and a lack of feel pitches. Or maybe he just doesnt have balls like alot of the people on here say about Floyd....at least when he is losing. No, he just gets a little bit afraid of contact and starts nibbling...but I wouldn't say it's a lack of balls. Like most pitchers, it's 90% confidence in his stuff. He needed to prove to himself that he could go out and win a key game and be a "stopper" again. He's just not as good since 2007 at battling like John usually does without his best stuff, and Mark almost always does...keeping the club in the game the 60-70% of the time he's not feeling great out there. Ramirez at his high water mark, .261 and 662 OPS now. Edited June 9, 2009 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerAtIU Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Really good to see Alexei able to hit that high fastball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Doesn't it seem like temperature has to be above 80 for Alexei to perform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Or maybe the guy is such a f***ing gamer he hurried back from what many of us thought was a career ending injury so he could play for this team again which led to a small mechanical flaw and a lack of feel pitches. Bingo... I will always have an enormous amount of respect for Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:55 PM) No, he just gets a little bit afraid of contact and starts nibbling...but I wouldn't say it's a lack of balls. Like most pitchers, it's 90% confidence in his stuff. He needed to prove to himself that he could go out and win a key game and be a "stopper" again. Completely false. You are saying his lack of feel for his pitches was mental and not the huge layoff from rehabbing a career threatening injury? Seriously, sometimes I wonder where people get this stuff. I especially like the use of a statistic there pointing at something you have looked at subjectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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