fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Not a terrible swing by Beckham there. Hopefully he plays 3b tomorrow and Fields will DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 03:15 AM) I know it's early, but Gordo doesn't have the bat speed I thought he would. Just saying, I am not doubt his ability or anything, but I thought it would be better than what we have seen. He hasn't really tried to pull anything yet. He's not swinging and missing, which is very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Im sure the Sox will bench him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 08:56 PM) Completely false. You are saying his lack of feel for his pitches was mental and not the huge layoff from rehabbing a career threatening injury? Seriously, sometimes I wonder where people get this stuff. I especially like the use of a statistic there pointing at something you have looked at subjectively. You're discounting the fact that he doesn't have a 95-97 MPH fastball to work with anymore. That will give any pitcher a lot of confidence, just like when Bartolo was dominant....you could see it with Bonderman in the low 90's/high 80's instead of mid 90's. Yes, a large part of it was/is mechanical when you come back from that kind of injury. You lose your consistent release point...and then when you jump around from different arm angles, it becomes that much more difficult to get a feel. Jose just has to be more precise with location and not pitch from behind in the count. Easier said than done. Ahead in the count, dominant with the forkball as a strikeout pitch, as long as it's close to the zone and the hitters don't lay off it. One of the things Jose hasn't done well since 2006 was knock hitters off the plate. When he misses inside, it's almost always center cut/inner half of the plate, not as much movement (backing up a bit). And he can't throw 90% fastballs from the side either. When he throws that slurve out and away, slicing across the other side of the plate on RH hitters, he's MUCH more effective because that gives them almost another pitch to think about, when he's basically a two and sometimes one pitch pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Anderson really needs to learn to not hit the ball at very good defensive 3b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm happy BA got thrown out...I don't want him rewarded for a terrible AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Contreras - a 1 hitter. Now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 who gets the next knock first? BA or Beckham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:09 PM) Wow, I'm likin this Contreras kid. Maybe he can be the long term answer at the back of the rotation. Colon needs to just come out of the bullpen, he won't be successful in the rotation with one f***ing pitch and a mediocre pitch at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 02:18 AM) who gets the next knock first? BA or Beckham? or Castro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 02:18 AM) Colon needs to just come out of the bullpen, he won't be successful in the rotation with one f***ing pitch and a mediocre pitch at that And his next two starts would be against Milwaukee and the Cubs...two excellent fastball hitting teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:17 PM) Anderson really needs to learn to not hit the ball at very good defensive 3b. Ugh. He hasn't given Ozzie any reason to play him over Wise with the bat lately. He could try doing us all a favor and getting some damned hits! The way it is going, Wise could stick around when TCQ comes back and Fields could go to Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Just because Beckham doesn't pull every pitch doesn't mean he doesn't have bat speed. His thing is to go with the pitch and use the whole field. He'll eventually be a doubles machine when he gets going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) He hasn't really tried to pull anything yet. He's not swinging and missing, which is very promising. He's just in between a little bit, but he'll be fine. There's just a huge difference between the swings and hand speed of a Ramirez/Beckham versus Anderson/Fields. Alexei's swing got too big, but he has the hand speed to compensate. Josh and Brian do not...and Wise might as well go home. Nix, of the other hitters, has the type of swing it SEEMS could be productive or dangerous. If you followed him in the minors or ST, you'll know his natural swing is between the 2B and the bag, right up the RCF alley/gap. He'll be a doubles machine and give you 16-24 homers per season playing 81 games at USCF. Edited June 9, 2009 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:18 PM) Colon needs to just come out of the bullpen, he won't be successful in the rotation with one f***ing pitch and a mediocre pitch at that I still think a DL trip could be in his future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 02:19 AM) Ugh. He hasn't given Ozzie any reason to play him over Wise with the bat lately. He could try doing us all a favor and getting some damned hits! The way it is going, Wise could stick around when TCQ comes back and Fields could go to Charlotte. It wouldn't surprise me at all if KW was looking to get rid of all 3 of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) Not a terrible swing by Beckham there. Hopefully he plays 3b tomorrow and Fields will DH. I don't give a s*** if he's O-fer whatever. He still has a better approach than Fields 7 days a week. f*** Josh Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Obligatory Marcus Thames 9th inning homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:21 PM) I don't give a s*** if he's O-fer whatever. He still has a better approach than Fields 7 days a week. f*** Josh Fields. Josh's actually been hitting better as of late. I wouldn't be so pissed at him if he knew how to field a routine grounder. Gordon's had some bad at bats so far. He's way too anxious up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 03:22 AM) ah? WTH would Kenny be looking to trade Quentin? Sorry, I meant Wise/BA/Fields. I think Wise gets DFA'd on Wednesday, and Fields is probably on the trade block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 09:22 PM) Obligatory Marcus Thames 9th inning homer. Give him the Sammy Sosa award for meaningless homers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 awesome win... I never thought they were going to show up the way they did... I am very pleased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) Frankly, I wanted that dropped just to see what Hawk wouldve done with it. "this ballgame is...nooo!" Edited June 9, 2009 by Princess Dye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Trade Fields, takes pressure off Becks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Impressed by the crowd of 30k tonight. That's not a turning point win, but it could definitely be classified as a season salvaging win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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