scenario Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:37 AM) Because? Arizona isn't exactly setting the world on fire at the moment. They're last in the AL West and with the Dodgers playing well they don't have much of a chance to contend this season. Josh Byrnes could decide to reload, and they've got quite a few early picks in this season's draft IIRC. Not saying it's going to happen, but you just can't rule it out and say it's definitely not. I think the odds are extremely small... emphasis on extremely. Lloyd Christmas type small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:37 AM) Because? Arizona isn't exactly setting the world on fire at the moment. They're last in the AL West and with the Dodgers playing well they don't have much of a chance to contend this season. Josh Byrnes could decide to reload, and they've got quite a few early picks in this season's draft IIRC. Not saying it's going to happen, but you just can't rule it out and say it's definitely not. Look at Haren's contract. Its very reasonable and he's an ace. You don't "reload" by trading your reasonably signed young ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:37 AM) Because? Arizona isn't exactly setting the world on fire at the moment. They're last in the AL West... I'm having a hard time even finding them in the AL West standings. They must be way down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Poreda on ESPN 1000 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:42 AM) I'm having a hard time even finding them in the AL West standings. They must be way down there. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:38 AM) The White Sox could be trading a reliever. Everyone needs them and teams will overpay. Hawk and Stone were talking about it the other day saying teams would have to pay double to get a good reliever. Maybe they were hinting at something. Agreed, the Sox have a few relievers in the minors they could call up (Jon Link for example), and some good ones on the major league squad (the back 4, plus a strangely successful Carrasco and now Poreda), plus a guy like Colon who at this point SHOULD be a reliever. Not many other teams have relievers to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 12:40 AM) Look at Haren's contract. Its very reasonable and he's an ace. You don't "reload" by trading your reasonably signed young ace. If you were able to get the best deal for him out of any of their players though talent wise in return, I'm sure they would at least consider it. And who knows, maybe if they keep playing as they have been, Haren might ask for a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:42 AM) Poreda on ESPN 1000 right now. Reports, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) Reports, please! Only been to Chicago once to sign his contract... likes AJ a lot and got to know some of the boys in spring training, confident in his stuff, yee haw. He sounds like he believes he's ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) Reports, please! Nothing big. Said he is excited to be coming to Chicago. Only been there once before. Doesnt know his role yet. Blah, blah. No real news out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everafan Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:48 AM) Nothing big. Said he is excited to be coming to Chicago. Only been there once before. Doesnt know his role yet. Blah, blah. No real news out of it. Should he be talking to the media before the move has been announced by the team? I know the kid is excited but I don't see this sitting well with Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) If you were able to get the best deal for him out of any of their players though talent wise in return, I'm sure they would at least consider it. And who knows, maybe if they keep playing as they have been, Haren might ask for a move. You would have to overpay for one of the best pitchers in baseball, and since it would be cost cutting you couldn't give them any money back. That means cleaning out the farm system. Probably at least your top 4 prospects, maybe more, and then it probably wouldn't get done. He's not available. Just because you are out of it doesn't mean you trade all your huge building blocks for prospects. You will never win that way. They traded a bunch to get Haren and signed him long-term, they will build around him, not trade him for some question marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) Look at Haren's contract. Its very reasonable and he's an ace. You don't "reload" by trading your reasonably signed young ace. All you have to do is look at what the D'Backs gave up to get him in the first place, and now he's an even BETTER bargain given the extension he signed with AZ. It would be an insane package that we're not going to pay. And why would AZ ask for anything less? One of the best pitchers in baseball with one of the best contracts in baseball and he's young? He's their cornerstone. I think many Sox fans would have had a hard time giving up Chris Carter, Greg Smith, Dana Eveland, and Aaron Cunningham in a deal for Haren if we had those guys in our system back when the trade was made. Imagine giving up all that PLUS Brett Anderson and Carlos Gonzalez. This board would f***ing explode. And now he's even more of a bargain. Imagine if we gave up Poreda, Richard, Danks, Allen, Viciedo, Shelby, and Fields, or something like that. Would anyone here actually make that trade? I wouldn't. I think it's foolish to imagine acquiring Dan Haren for anything that we'd be comfortable giving up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 What do guys think his immediate impact will be? I am debating on wheter or not to drop Manny Parra for him in one of my head to head fantasy leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Cowley's Twitter: Is he or isn't he? Have the Sox called up A. Poreda? The entire South Side holds its collective breath. The team remained silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:00 AM) Cowley's Twitter: God, I can't stand Cowley. What a clowndick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm guessing Poreda called up, Richard back to the pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Colon is released. Leaving the rotation the rest of the year: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, Contreras, Poreda Isn't that what most of us predicted to start the year back in the winter? Look at Poredas #'s this year: Poreda 2009 stats He is more than ready to go. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:04 AM) God, I can't stand Cowley. What a clowndick. Someone better call Joe and tell him Poreda is confirming he's being called up on the radio. He is a hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 09:38 AM) The White Sox could be trading a reliever. Everyone needs them and teams will overpay. Hawk and Stone were talking about it the other day saying teams would have to pay double to get a good reliever. Maybe they were hinting at something.I was thinking the same thing. I really wouldn't be surprised at all if Jenks were traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) I'm guessing Poreda called up, Richard back to the pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Colon is released. Leaving the rotation the rest of the year: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, Contreras, Poreda Isn't that what most of us predicted to start the year back in the winter? Look at Poredas #'s this year: Poreda 2009 stats He is more than ready to go. . AA vs the major leagues. Its no lock he's "ready to go". He has had control issues. In the big leagues that tends to bite you. I don't think they would put him in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) I'm guessing Poreda called up, Richard back to the pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Colon is released. Leaving the rotation the rest of the year: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, Contreras, Poreda Isn't that what most of us predicted to start the year back in the winter? Look at Poredas #'s this year: Poreda 2009 stats He is more than ready to go. . Is that a high walk rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 We're missing the biggest issue here: how will Josh Fields feel about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:13 AM) We're missing the biggest issue here: how will Josh Fields feel about this? I guessing akward. Poreda is young and maybe a little vulgar and immature in the clubhouse. Maybe Josh will just retire. Edited June 9, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:13 AM) We're missing the biggest issue here: how will Josh Fields feel about this? Like a whiny biotch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) Is it me or does it feel like there is going to be some trades happening here really soon. I feel strongly both ways about this possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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