HuskyCaucasian Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) I how I love borderline dictatorships: State Media Says Ahmadinejad Won, But Mousavi Declares Victory For a few hours both sides have been claiming victory with 60% or so of the vote. But campaigns often make these sorts of claims. And the polls were still not closed. But now the official state news agency has called the election or perhaps better to say 'reported' that Ahmadinejad has won. al Arabiya has the state news agency calling it for Ahmadinejad with a somewhat improbable 75% majority. That's not quote the 'state' calling it for the incumbent. But it sounds like that's where we're headed. At the same time, Mr. Mousavi just held a press conference in which he said that he's the "definite winner" and by a substantial margin. So like I said, this ride could get pretty bumpy. Late Update: We're trying to piece together the details here. But the latest seems to be that election officials are calling the election for Ahmadinejad with a bit over 69% of the vote. Perhaps not a huge distinction from the official state news agency. But a significant difference, I think. Edited June 12, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 The 75% of the vote number just dosen't look right. From what I read is that is was gonna be close. I think Iran may see some civil unrest if they think that Ahmadinejad was up something in this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 75% may be not accurate: Earlier we noted reports that election officials were calling a lopsided win for Ahmadinejad. But that's now less clear. Apparently what election officials said, in a hastily called press conference following Mr. Mousavi's press conference (in which he himself claimed victory), was that 19% of the vote had been counted and that President Ahmadinejad was up by roughly 69%. Obviously that's very different from calling the whole election by that margin. What's more, there's some suggestion these votes are coming disproportionately from rural areas, where Ahmadinejad claims his strongest support. It's not clear to me, candidly, whether the initial reports were incorrect, unclear or whether we misunderstood what we were hearing. But we'll keep you up to date on the very latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 75%, 69% whatever...that seems awfully fishy considering international groups were expected a close result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 05:03 PM) 75%, 69% whatever...that seems awfully fishy considering international groups were expected a close result. Well, I'm not ready to exonerate their government just yet, but if you look at early returns in American elections the numbers always look pretty funny too. Let's see how it looks in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 He's the right puppet for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 02:03 PM) 75%, 69% whatever...that seems awfully fishy considering international groups were expected a close result. If you're going to rig an election, it's a dead giveaway when the final numbers look like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 How long until ImANutJob makes the Iranian presidency a life term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) How long until ImANutJob makes the Iranian presidency a life term? He doesn't have the power to do that, silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 07:14 PM) He doesn't have the power to do that, silly. but I am sure his allies in government do. And it seems pretty clear to me, they really like him as the leader. So, connect the dots. In theory, Hugo Chavez didnt have the power either, until he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 The Ayatollah is already appointed until death. Why would they want to create another position, President, that could ultimately challenge them in power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 07:59 PM) The Ayatollah is already appointed until death. Why would they want to create another position, President, that could ultimately challenge them in power? And no one is "President" without the consent of the Ayatollah. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 07:59 PM) The Ayatollah is already appointed until death. CBS News : "OMG OMG Lindsey Lohan!! OMG OMG! " did you guys see that the Bill O'reily show has higher ratings than the CBS nightly news now? wow Edited June 13, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 08:42 PM) CBS News : "OMG OMG Lindsey Lohan!! OMG OMG! " did you guys see that the Bill O'reily show has higher ratings than the CBS nightly news now? wow Have you been drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) Have you been drinking? good sir i take offense to that back to the news New York Times : "OMG OMG Brittany Spears OMG!!! AL GORE! BARACK OBAMA!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) Have you been drinking? and yes i have been. so >? the filibuster needs more drunk posts, not less my friend. oh and ABC news is reporting that a celebrity did somethign and Obama has a new sweater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) well, i guess i can't disagree, this is big news. good job CBS. you are true journalists. i apologize Balta, your news crew is indeed top notch. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/12/...in5082589.shtml Edited June 13, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Looks like Ahmadinejad "won." It was supposed to be close and he won in a complete blowout. Someone needs to get ACORN over to Iran and teach them how to properly fix elections (that one was for you mr. genius). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 13, 2009 -> 08:42 AM) Looks like Ahmadinejad "won." It was supposed to be close and he won in a complete blowout. Someone needs to get ACORN over to Iran and teach them how to properly fix elections (that one was for you mr. genius). dern right wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 s*** has hit the fan in Iran. Massive riots and protests. The opponents website has been blocked and text messages disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) From HuffPo: Reuters Reporter injured, 50-100 protesters dead Iran clergy group calls for new election Mousavi adviser: "It's a coup d'etat." Ahmadinejad attacks foreign media Cell phone service down White House statement Evidence that the election was stolen Report: Mousavi under house arrest and more Click the link for the full details. It's a long article. Edited June 13, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Usually if you're going to rig an election you're smart enough to make it 51-49. Hell, there were 4 candidates here, he could have won it 51-30-10-10 and it would still have looked better and avoided the runoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 13, 2009 -> 02:35 PM) Usually if you're going to rig an election you're smart enough to make it 51-49. Hell, there were 4 candidates here, he could have won it 51-30-10-10 and it would still have looked better and avoided the runoff. or wait to see if might have won legit, then if not find a bunch of ballots. then win. or have the supreme court give you the win. either way, winner winner chicken dinner. does Iran have a supreme court type institution? Edited June 13, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 13, 2009 -> 12:36 PM) or wait to see if might have won legit, then if not find a bunch of ballots. then win. or have the supreme court give you the win. either way, winner winner chicken dinner. does Iran have a supreme court type institution? There is a court system with a Supreme Court, but like in many things, it appears that its rulings are strongly subject to the will of the clerics at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 13, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) From HuffPo: Reuters Reporter injured, 50-100 protesters dead Iran clergy group calls for new election Mousavi adviser: "It's a coup d'etat." Ahmadinejad attacks foreign media Cell phone service down White House statement Evidence that the election was stolen Report: Mousavi under house arrest and more Click the link for the full details. It's a long article. I don't like people dying, but f*** yeah, go Iranians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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