CWSOX45 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I heard that there are more rumors going around, this one from whitesox.com messageboards. Some posters say that they heard a three way deal with Toronto. We would trade Rowand and Konerko to someone and we would get a starting pitcher in return. No one said anything else about the third team involved in this deal. I don't like the sound of this, especially if KW has his way we might get to see Corey Lidle in a Sox uniform...... Than again it's just another rumor. Anyone hear anything? CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 alls quiet on the southern front.. havent heard any such thing....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 21, 2003 Author Share Posted July 21, 2003 hotsoxchick1 said: alls quiet on the southern front.. havent heard any such thing....... Okay, than it's prob just a rumor. Thank god too. Thanks. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Why wouldn't you want Cory Lidle? He's something like 25-8 in the second half in his career. Didn't he have a scoreless innings streak of 30+ innings or something like that number, last year. For some reason he is a second half stud. Who knows why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 it would be hard to trade Rowand and Konerko, but getting Lidle back wouldn't make it a terrible trade based on numbers. I don't see that happening however. The Blue Jays rotation and bullpen is far too delicate for them to trade away Lidle, especially if they think they are in it, which they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 if hes a free agent after this year i wouldnt it would have to be sign and trade anyway i haven't heard anything either. I think kw's trying to showcase konerko by having manuel play him so much now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 bet on it... as soon as we trade paulie, he goes .320 the rest of the season.... the man owes US some hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 we should trade daubach if paulie heats up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 hotsoxchick1 said: alls quiet on the southern front.. havent heard any such thing....... I had a nightmare last night. KW traded a bunch more of our prospects for two more aging vets.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Bmr31 said: I had a nightmare last night. KW traded a bunch more of our prospects for two more aging vets.... well texas still hasnt picked the prospects they wanted yet for the everett trade... so me thinks its safe to say that no one is going anywhere.........prospect wise that is........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 hotsoxchick1 said: well texas still hasnt picked the prospects they wanted yet for the everett trade... so me thinks its safe to say that no one is going anywhere.........prospect wise that is........ K well make sure he doesnt do any dumbass s*** when im away for a week.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Ishmookie said: we should trade daubach if paulie heats up If????? Paulie's f***ing hot. He's gotta be .300+ since the HR against MN. He was 3-4 today. And the out he made was a f***ing bee-bee right back to the pitcher. PK is HOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 if he keeps it up for a week than ill believe he's back consistency is the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 CubKilla said: If????? Paulie's f***ing hot. He's gotta be .300+ since the HR against MN. He was 3-4 today. And the out he made was a f***ing bee-bee right back to the pitcher. PK is HOT! ive seen hotter days in december around chicago............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Ishmookie said: we should trade daubach if paulie heats up Why would we do that? Trade Lee if we trade anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 witesoxfan said: Why would we do that? Trade Lee if we trade anyone. yup... carlos is your biggest bang-for-your-buck trade.... i would not miss him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 We need bullpen help. The only guys I feel good about in the pen right now are Marte and Gordon. I think our rotation is fine. Loaiza is havin a Cy-Young type year. Buehrle is one of the hottest pitchers in baseball. I have to believe Colon will get it goin. And Garland has been good since a rought start. We don't have a clear cut #5 starter...But how many teams do? Relief help before anything says jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 witesoxfan said: Why would we do that? Trade Lee if we trade anyone. and doesn't Toronto have the best offense in baseball? Why would they trade away their only weakness(pitching) for more offense? Are they reeling in the lose of Shannon Stewart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I've said this at the beginning of the season, and I'll say again that Paulie needs to be traded over Lee. Its not the fact that Konerko has not been hitting this year, but that he might possibly be injured and he is slow as hell. Lee is still a young player who can put up good numbers, his biggest problem is swinging for the fences every time up. Personally I think we need to trade both of them, but Konerko should go first. However, Paulie's value is at an all-time low right now, so I say we stay put for now. As for Rowand and Paulie for a pitcher, that must be all speculation because no way would Toronto be able to fit them into their lineup with Wells and Delgado (the untouchables) playing those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 That rumor doesn't make a lot of sense. Toronto has DelGado at 1st so they don't need Konerko plus Paulie and Rowand for Lidle doesn't make sense either as we are giving up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 GASHWOUND said: witesoxfan said: Why would we do that? Trade Lee if we trade anyone. and doesn't Toronto have the best offense in baseball? Why would they trade away their only weakness(pitching) for more offense? Are they reeling in the lose of Shannon Stewart? Have you seen what Kielty has done since going to Toronto? If I remember correctly, he went 3-4 in his debut, with a big homer to left, had a solid second game, and made an incredible catch in game 3 to rob Trot Nixon of a homer. They aren't reeling. Kielty is just helping them get back into contention. The reason they'd trade their pitching is because they're looking towards next year. I personally don't see that happening. Not yet anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 whitesox247 said: I've said this at the beginning of the season, and I'll say again that Paulie needs to be traded over Lee. Its not the fact that Konerko has not been hitting this year, but that he might possibly be injured and he is slow as hell. Lee is still a young player who can put up good numbers, his biggest problem is swinging for the fences every time up. Personally I think we need to trade both of them, but Konerko should go first. However, Paulie's value is at an all-time low right now, so I say we stay put for now. As for Rowand and Paulie for a pitcher, that must be all speculation because no way would Toronto be able to fit them into their lineup with Wells and Delgado (the untouchables) playing those positions. What could we get in value for PK? Absolutely nothing. Carlos is the first traded, because he still has value. If a team like LA wants to take a risk on PK, we could defiantely take on half of his salary and get a solid relief pitcher(do a package of Ginter and Konerko for Mota or Shuey). LA and Baltimore are about the only two teams who have had interest in PK, and they're the only two who will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 wsf i think that LA would take a chance on frank before they ask for paulie.....mho...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 hotsoxchick1 said: wsf i think that LA would take a chance on frank before they ask for paulie.....mho...... I'd have to agree. Didn't Evans try to lure Frank to LA in the offseason? Frank's somewhat cheaper too. What's hard about trading Frank is the fact that he can go on a tear and carry a team for a good period of time(much like he did in 2000). He did that in June to an extent, and that was one reason we won quite a bit in June. PK, though he is clutch, just can't do that. He puts up solid numbers(like last year when he hit .300 30 100 or so), but he can never do it over a full season. He and Lee are terrible about that. I'd atleast like to see Frank get his 400th homer in a Sox uni, and then if we need pen help, I'd ask Evans for Shuey and Mota, and see if he gives in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 yes danny and frank did exchange words during the off season.... and i think now frank has proven he can play and isnt washed up like most thought, he once again can become a highly sought after player.....though dumping paulie would be my priority if i were in charge..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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