Cubano Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) How many campaign promises have Obama broken or will brake? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=auTTvgeN294Y Have he forgotten that we want change? This guys is getting a pass because the Republicans do not have anybody who can step up to the plate. When Dick" Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh are the spokepersons or the most visible voices within the party, Obama is getting a free pass. Be prepare for higher taxes. Be prepare for high inflation. Be prepare for more rogue states to make their move on USA. We do not need to spend more money from the stimulus package. Edited June 17, 2009 by Cubano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 11:17 AM) Be prepare for higher taxes. Be prepare for high inflation. Be prepare for more rogue states to make their move on USA. On inflation, that's so far been a non-issue, and I think its likely to stay one. And what the heck are you talking about on the third point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 11:24 AM) On inflation, that's so far been a non-issue, and I think its likely to stay one. And what the heck are you talking about on the third point? Inflation is a huge issue if we don't stop printing money like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'd argue that by and large, Obama has taken a lot of steps that are in line with what he's spoken about in his campaign. The only people he's sold out so far has been the gay community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 11:25 AM) Inflation is a huge issue if we don't stop printing money like crazy. Could be. I don't see much effect in the next year or two, but I agree we have to be careful of creating all these debt obligations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 11:26 AM) I'd argue that by and large, Obama has taken a lot of steps that are in line with what he's spoken about in his campaign. The only people he's sold out so far has been the gay community. I think he sold out on the telecom immunity thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 12:27 PM) I think he sold out on the telecom immunity thing. He sold out on that on his campaign, so, what did people expect there? I'm over that, though. Besides him obviously being two-faced, I don't think the issue itself is what it was blown up to be in the first place. He's been more or less what I thought he was going to be. I didn't want sweeping super-liberal change and that isn't what I was voting for. I figure, there are goals, and there is what you can accomplish as president. That's about what he is. I also know that the entire government is not going to change overnight. Sometimes I wonder when I see certain criticisms from people - would they wake up from triple bypass surgery not even sure if they're going to live yet, and ask the doctor why their LASIK surgery wasn't done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) He sold out on that on his campaign, so, what did people expect there? I'm over that, though. Besides him obviously being two-faced, I don't think the issue itself is what it was blown up to be in the first place. He's been more or less what I thought he was going to be. I didn't want sweeping super-liberal change and that isn't what I was voting for. I figure, there are goals, and there is what you can accomplish as president. That's about what he is. I also know that the entire government is not going to change overnight. Sometimes I wonder when I see certain criticisms from people - would they wake up from triple bypass surgery not even sure if they're going to live yet, and ask the doctor why their LASIK surgery wasn't done? True that. Foreign policy wise, I think he's been pretty Aces. And I think that's a big change and a good one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 11:32 AM) He sold out on that on his campaign, so, what did people expect there? I'm over that, though. Besides him obviously being two-faced, I don't think the issue itself is what it was blown up to be in the first place. He's been more or less what I thought he was going to be. I didn't want sweeping super-liberal change and that isn't what I was voting for. I figure, there are goals, and there is what you can accomplish as president. That's about what he is. I also know that the entire government is not going to change overnight. Sometimes I wonder when I see certain criticisms from people - would they wake up from triple bypass surgery not even sure if they're going to live yet, and ask the doctor why their LASIK surgery wasn't done? Oh I agree, overall he's been what he said he'd be. And I'm more positive than negative on his performance thus far. I was just responding specifically to the whole "selling out" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 12:38 PM) Oh I agree, overall he's been what he said he'd be. And I'm more positive than negative on his performance thus far. I was just responding specifically to the whole "selling out" thing. Oh, yeah the second paragraph there was just a transition into something else I wanted to say and I didn't need a whole second post to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixon Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Inflation will remain in check until the economy recovers. Probably until early next year. Inflation is caused by an increase in aggregate demand and that's not something we've seen yet though the creep up in oil prices would seem to indicate that it will be coming. There's a pretty interesting debate going on at Paul Krugmann's blog about that this week with a Harvard economist. Edited June 17, 2009 by Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Obama's government has also not been transparent, at all. With the exception of releasing the torture memos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 01:55 PM) Obama's government has also not been transparent, at all. With the exception of releasing the torture memos. That really doesn't bother me. Did anyone really think he'd be any different in that area? In fact, I'd rather know less about what goes on behind closed doors, not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 03:52 PM) That really doesn't bother me. Did anyone really think he'd be any different in that area? In fact, I'd rather know less about what goes on behind closed doors, not more. I think he made that promise on the campaign trail thinking it would be easy, then he got into office and saw how that game was played, and didn't want to play anymore. That doesn't explain why he completely backed down on allowing bills to be debated in public for 5 days before he signed them into law, though. That promise wouldn't have been hard to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 12:52 PM) That really doesn't bother me. Did anyone really think he'd be any different in that area? In fact, I'd rather know less about what goes on behind closed doors, not more. Just yesterday they refused to release a list of White House guests, which they'd pledged to do during the campaign. I'd at least like to know who's going through the doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 10:24 AM) On inflation, that's so far been a non-issue, and I think its likely to stay one. And what the heck are you talking about on the third point? Chavez in Venezuela nationalizing more companies and consolidating power without the fear of the great USA Mariners going after him. Our friends in North Korea acting like crazy. The Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad consolidating his powers behind the conservative leaders. The USA enemies understand Obama is weak. He won't send troops anywhere. He will stay in Iraq and Afghanistan because he has no choice. Though the USA can not keep financing wars with Chinese money. As for inflation, you ain't see nothing yet folks. You just saw an increase in oil. Even in the USA, the government does whatever it wants violating the laws. It amazes me how the Indiana or Ohio Pension funds and secure bond holders got screwed in favor of nonsecured and Union folks with the auto companies. I won't buy an USA car unless it is a Ford. Save your pennies now so you can pay your gas later. Do not blame Bush! If you have a problem, call Obama. Ha, ha, ha. Drill, baby drill. Now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Yeah, we're not gonna use our military to clean up domestic problems in other countries, sorry. Not even Iran and Venezuela. Has nothing to do whatsoever with Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 05:55 PM) Obama's government has also not been transparent, at all. With the exception of releasing the torture memos. my main criticism. If he's to move so fast he needs to be more transparent. Stimulus funding hasn't been intelligible, it's merely been released. And him using state secrets. Presidents can do whatever nowadays with their only check being election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Cubano. Again. You must post here http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63789 first before posting in the Filibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 this has been the oddest thread ive seen in a long time. i swear this president has been under the microscope more than any other in their first 5 months. Just think, only 43 more months in his term. sh*t we kept hearing that 9-11 wasnt under Bush's watch since he had only been president for 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 05:11 PM) Chavez in Venezuela nationalizing more companies and consolidating power without the fear of the great USA Mariners going after him. Our friends in North Korea acting like crazy. The Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad consolidating his powers behind the conservative leaders. The USA enemies understand Obama is weak. He won't send troops anywhere. He will stay in Iraq and Afghanistan because he has no choice. Though the USA can not keep financing wars with Chinese money. As for inflation, you ain't see nothing yet folks. You just saw an increase in oil. Even in the USA, the government does whatever it wants violating the laws. It amazes me how the Indiana or Ohio Pension funds and secure bond holders got screwed in favor of nonsecured and Union folks with the auto companies. I won't buy an USA car unless it is a Ford. Save your pennies now so you can pay your gas later. Do not blame Bush! If you have a problem, call Obama. Ha, ha, ha. Drill, baby drill. Now! Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came to power while Bush was President. Based on your logic, Bush deserves a hell of a lot blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 05:26 PM) my main criticism. If he's to move so fast he needs to be more transparent. Stimulus funding hasn't been intelligible, it's merely been released. And him using state secrets. Presidents can do whatever nowadays with their only check being election. Their calculations are dubious. We will see all the fraud as a result of this heavy government intervention. Look at this guy. He is one of the responsible parties for the mortgage debacle. http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/06/04...er-ceo-meeting/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 The Iranians were scared that the with the cowboy from Texas would drop a few bombs against the bad guys. Do not worry because the Israelis will take care of them at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 05:20 PM) Yeah, we're not gonna use our military to clean up domestic problems in other countries, sorry. Not even Iran and Venezuela. Has nothing to do whatsoever with Obama. That is what this country elected when helping create the U.N. and contribute most of the money for it. Based on your post, then it was a mistake entering WWI and WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Cubano @ Jun 17, 2009 -> 08:55 PM) That is what this country elected when helping create the U.N. and contribute most of the money for it. Based on your post, then it was a mistake entering WWI and WWII. I didn't say anything about it being a mistake (although that is true, invading those countries because we don't like their governments would be a horrible mistake), but it's just something that's not going to happen. Even a Republican president with a Republican Congress wouldn't go that far. plus the UN was created in, what, 1947? Edited June 18, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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