MHizzle85 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Bulls Front Office, PLEASE pull the trigger on this. A move like this could mean a slightly longer playoff run next season. Unpatiently waiting, MHizzle85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Houston's going to want our first round draft pick in that, no question. And they'd probably be reluctant to give up lottery protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 If we can get Boozer without giving up Hinrich, do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Pargo: $2 million Barnes: $1.8 million Bulls front office: terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) Pargo: $2 million Barnes: $1.8 million Bulls front office: terrible Bulls were looking for offense off the bench, not defense. Right or wrong thats what we were looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 12:37 AM) Matt Barnes signs a 2 year deal with the Magic and C.J Watson signs a 1 year deal offer sheet. Favorites for the East dare I say it? Did you guys not lose Hedo? Did Boston and Cleveland switch conferences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) Sounds like we may have gotten him for 1.8M for 2 years which would be an absolute steal. Having Lewis, Bass, Anderson, Barnes and Pietrus who can all play at the 3 or the 4 is going to give us a lot of options. Barnes could start if we play Lewis at the 4 even, which I think will still happen. Also, saw this on Hoopsworld today; Barnes cannot play PF. Nor can Pietrus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 12:54 PM) Did you guys not lose Hedo? Did Boston and Cleveland switch conferences? Orlando is absolutely stacked. They upgraded Turkoglu into VC who was one of three players to average 20/5/5 last year with Kobe and LeBron I believe. They turned Battie into Bass and Andersen. They're turning Anthony Johnson into CJ Watson who actually can run and provide some serviceable minutes at backup PG. Also, Barnes can play PF as he did with the Suns and Warriors. He's better off as a SF though. I wonder what they're going to do with JJ Redick though. Edited July 21, 2009 by nitetrain8601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 02:37 PM) Orlando is absolutely stacked. They upgraded Turkoglu into VC who was one of three players to average 20/5/5 last year with Kobe and LeBron I believe. They turned Battie into Bass and Andersen. They're turning Anthony Johnson into CJ Watson who actually can run and provide some serviceable minutes at backup PG. Also, Barnes can play PF as he did with the Suns and Warriors. He's better off as a SF though. I wonder what they're going to do with JJ Redick though. still a 3rd seed. Can grab #2 from cle, but not on the same planet as Boston (at full strength) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 01:46 PM) still a 3rd seed. Can grab #2 from cle, but not on the same planet as Boston (at full strength) . I don't see how, but that's your argument, and it's certainly a good one. I just think Orlando is better. We shall see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Orlando and Boston are pretty much neck and neck. The trio's of Garnett, Pierce, and Allen cancel out Howard, Carter, and Lewis. Nelson and Rondo are both good PG's with similar impacts. Rasheed is clearly better than Gortat or Ryan Anderson, but I think Orlando has the better bench. Cleveland should be right there with them as well, as they clearly have the best overall player of the bunch, and now Shaq. If Shaq is rejuvenated again then the trio of Mo Williams, Lebron, and Shaq will be tough to stop in the playoffs. Should be an epic year for the NBA. Edited July 21, 2009 by Palehosefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) Should be an epic year for the NBA. Highly doubtful. The elite teams in the league will be awesome and the rest of the league will stink. Same as before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:46 AM) still a 3rd seed. Can grab #2 from cle, but not on the same planet as Boston (at full strength) . Let's take in to account which teams are likely to be closest to full strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) Did you guys not lose Hedo? Did Boston and Cleveland switch conferences? Boston is the hands down favorite anyway. KG coming back plus Rasheed >>> any other teams off-season to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 02:37 PM) Boston is the hands down favorite anyway. KG coming back plus Rasheed >>> any other teams off-season to date. Will KG ever be 100% again? Will Pierce and Allen start showing their age? Will Rajon Rondo run in to the crowd and beat someone up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) Will KG ever be 100% again? Will Pierce and Allen start showing their age? Will Rajon Rondo run in to the crowd and beat someone up? Will the Magic play way over there heads? Sorry, Orlando isn't that good. They got hot and made it deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:47 AM) If we can get Boozer without giving up Hinrich, do it. Hell if we can get Boozer WITH Hinrich involved, do it. I COULD understand the front office being hesitant to deal Tyrus which is understandable. Maybe a future star, potential off the charts, could bite them in the ass, yada, yada, yada. But Kirk f***ing Hinrich?!?! What kind of s*** is that? Edited July 22, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 22, 2009 -> 07:51 AM) Will the Magic play way over there heads? Sorry, Orlando isn't that good. They got hot and made it deep. I'm going to remember this Jason. As palehosefan said I think our big 3 at least cancels out Boston's. The guy to me to watch out for in Boston is Ray Allen. Yeah he had a great playoff series against the Bulls but then he was terrible against the Magic. He'll be 34 when the season starts, and I think we've probably seen the best of him. I'd take Carter over Allen with all things being equal right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:33 PM) Hell if we can get Boozer WITH Hinrich involved, do it. I COULD understand the front office being hesitant to deal Tyrus which is understandable. Maybe a future star, potential off the charts, could bite them in the ass, yada, yada, yada. But Kirk f***ing Hinrich?!?! What kind of s*** is that? The problem is who plays guard if he is gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:33 PM) I COULD understand the front office being hesitant to deal Tyrus which is understandable. Maybe a future star, potential off the charts, could bite them in the ass, yada, yada, yada. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:33 PM) Hell if we can get Boozer WITH Hinrich involved, do it. I COULD understand the front office being hesitant to deal Tyrus which is understandable. Maybe a future star, potential off the charts, could bite them in the ass, yada, yada, yada. But Kirk f***ing Hinrich?!?! What kind of s*** is that? I love me some Tyrus as well, but I wouldn't shed 2 tears if he was traded tomorrow. I'd much rather keep an experienced guard who can defend his ass off. Unless he somehow improves that basketball IQ then he won't be a future star & it'll never bite the Bulls in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:56 PM) I love me some Tyrus as well, but I wouldn't shed 2 tears if he was traded tomorrow. I'd much rather keep an experienced guard who can defend his ass off. Unless he somehow improves that basketball IQ then he won't be a future star & it'll never bite the Bulls in the ass. I agree 100%, but the bulls WANT to deal him, which isn't what I was arguing. They are hesitant to deal Kirk Hinrich of all players, which is what I'm not getting. Tyrus also plays hard, defends his ass off, but Kirk is just a better defender, and hustler as well, a leader though T.O. prone and lacks the vision of a point guard. s*** Boozer for Tyrus + Hinrich? As the biggest Tyrus fan on this board, I would drive T2 to the airport, but not if the deal is lingering on moving Kirk f***ing Hinrich. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:27 PM) The problem is who plays guard if he is gone? Fair point, though I'm assuming Pargo was signed as a backup PG who can score off the bench. The off-season is far from over though. Edited July 22, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Will the Magic play way over there heads? Sorry, Orlando isn't that good. They got hot and made it deep. Really? Orlando was one of the best teams in the league last season not even taking into account they lost an all star PG for half of the season.. They weren't playing over their heads.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I cannot for the life of me fathom why some fools still think Tyrus is the man/going to be the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:27 PM) The problem is who plays guard if he is gone? Unless the Jazz for some reason want to not only add Hinrich (they seem to have a PG) but also want to add Hinrich's contract (Taxes are bad!), then you need to get a backup guard coming back in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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