Official 2009-2010 NBA Thread

[MHizzle85]

Maybe Gilbert isnt as crazy as he is stupid

 

http://deadspin.com/5442282/crittenton-coc...taking-the-fall

 

Holy s***. Singing while loading a gun? That's a little too Falling Down. But there's more:

 

 

 

Wizards' Arenas suspended indefinitely as new details emerge in gun incident

Hmm, this explains a lot now. So Arenas was really willing to lose it all for this dude?

[Kyyle23]

Hmm, this explains a lot now. So Arenas was really willing to lose it all for this dude?

 

from that article it seemed like Arenas expected Crittendon to fess up to his part, and that never happened.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Not that there's much competition, but this may be one of Jason Whitlock's best articles ever. I actually agree with a lot of what he says in this.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Whitloc...uys-like-Arenas

[southsider2k5]

You know as well as I do that in a lot of cases the other team is happy to cooperate because they get access to a player like Bosh without having to be fully under the cap. The team is basically trading his Bird rights. The only way that it doesn't work is if he jumps rapidly to a team that is already under the cap so far as to offer a Max deal. But...the team he's currently with can always offer more money than a team as a FA, so it's to his advantage to do the sign and trade route (That's probably a big part of the reason why Kobe isn't a Clipper, btw).

 

The signing team might not want to give up players to get Bosh if they think they can get him on the free agent market, both for a smaller contract and keeping his new team intact with talent.

[MHizzle85]

Not that there's much competition, but this may be one of Jason Whitlock's best articles ever. I actually agree with a lot of what he says in this.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Whitloc...uys-like-Arenas

Eh, the longer you spend in college = more money scale just sounds stupid. I see what he's trying to say, but it just doesn't work. IMO, Arenas has just been made the example to show anyone else in the NBA that if they wanna bring guns to the arena then this is what will happen.

 

I have not a problem with Arenas being suspended, if Plaxico goes to jail just for having his then Arenas should be at least suspended.

[MexSoxFan#1]

I just don't get what all the big fuss about what Arenas did,they were unloaded weapons...what Crittenton did was actually much worse.

 

[Balta1701]

I just don't get what all the big fuss about what Arenas did,they were unloaded weapons...what Crittenton did was actually much worse.

If nothing else he directly violated the NBA rules by having a firearm at an NBA facility. A suspension was fully appropriate.

Section 9. Firearms.

(a) Whenever a player is physically present at a facility or venue owned, operated, or being used by a Team, the NBA, or any League-related entity, and whenever a player is traveling on any NBA-related business, whether on behalf of the player’s Team, the NBA, or any League-related entity, such player shall not possess a firearm of any kind. For purposes of the foregoing, “a facility or venue” includes, but is not limited to: an arena; a practice facility; a Team or League office or facility; an All-Star or NBA Playoff venue; and the site of a promotional or charitable appearance.

 

(B) Any violation of Section 9(a) above shall be considered conduct prejudicial to the NBA under Article 35(d) of the NBA Constitution and By-Laws, and shall therefore subject the player to discipline by the NBA in accordance with such Article.

And what, you ask, does Article 35(d) say?

 

Here it is, in all its glorious legalese:

 

"The commissioner shall have the power to suspend for a definite or indefinite period, or impose a fine not exceeding $50,000, or inflict both such suspension and fine upon any player who in his opinion: (i) who shall have made or caused to be made any statement having, or that was designed to have, in effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball or the Association, or a member, or (ii) shall have been guilty of conduct that does not conform to standards or morality or fair play, or that does not comply at all times with federal, state and local laws, or that is prejudicial or detrimental to The Association."

[nitetrain8601]

I just don't get what all the big fuss about what Arenas did,they were unloaded weapons...what Crittenton did was actually much worse.

 

I agree. Bringing guns in the first place was dumb, but not really all that bad. And the picture, I don't get what's so bad about that in the huddle in pregame warmups. The way he deals with things is by joking around. He always has. With that said, this has been a sucky year for him. First his fiance/wife is cheating on him with Shaq, and now this.

 

If nothing else he directly violated the NBA rules by having a firearm at an NBA facility. A suspension was fully appropriate.

 

Yeah, but taking away his whole paycheck isn't. It says in there, the fine cannot exceed $150,000.00

 

[southsider2k5]

I agree. Bringing guns in the first place was dumb, but not really all that bad. And the picture, I don't get what's so bad about that in the huddle in pregame warmups. The way he deals with things is by joking around. He always has. With that said, this has been a sucky year for him. First his fiance/wife is cheating on him with Shaq, and now this.

 

 

 

Yeah, but taking away his whole paycheck isn't. It says in there, the fine cannot exceed $150,000.00

 

Fines go on top of losing your salary for a suspension.

[Kyyle23]

I am still waiting for Crittendon to recieve the same suspension. If what I posted before truly happened, and Crittendon not only had his own gun, but also loaded it in the lockerroom then an indefinite suspension without pay should be levied against him as well.

[knightni]

Brandon Jennings going all retro with the hair.

 

 

[Kyyle23]

Brandon Jennings going all retro with the hair.

 

I loved it when I saw it. Totally Kid n Play

[Balta1701]

Fines go on top of losing your salary for a suspension.

This.

[nitetrain8601]

Jennings actually had that hairstyle in high school. I think he had it for the McDonald's All American game as well his senior season. I like it actually.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Flat top-ish with the lines on the side? Yeah, he had it at the mcdonalds AA game and senior year...

[Steve9347]

[SoxAce]

I'm loving Jennings more and more now.

[Quin]

I just don't get what all the big fuss about what Arenas did,they were unloaded weapons...what Crittenton did was actually much worse.

 

Loading a gun and aiming it doesn't seem so bad.

 

Bringing empty ones on the other hand, evil!

 

(FYI, I think both should be suspended, but Crittenton far more so)

[Dick Allen]

I agree. Bringing guns in the first place was dumb, but not really all that bad. And the picture, I don't get what's so bad about that in the huddle in pregame warmups. The way he deals with things is by joking around. He always has. With that said, this has been a sucky year for him. First his fiance/wife is cheating on him with Shaq, and now this.

 

 

 

Yeah, but taking away his whole paycheck isn't. It says in there, the fine cannot exceed $150,000.00

Bringing guns to work not even including not having the proper paperwork to be handling the guns and pointing it at a co-worker or threatening a co-worker with said gun would get 99.99 % of us fired. David Stern warned NBA players about guns on NBA "property". Arenas is an idiot, and even if he was trying to make a little joke about the situation, it wasn't the time or the place. I think there's a pretty good chance he winds up doing time.

[Dick Allen]

Loading a gun and aiming it doesn't seem so bad.

 

Bringing empty ones on the other hand, evil!

 

(FYI, I think both should be suspended, but Crittenton far more so)

I don't know why Crittenton has received a pass so far, but if the incident happened like reported, he'll probably never play in the NBA again. There are reports that the earlier description isn't really what happened, in fact, I read where the gun Crittenton pointed at Arenas was one of Arenas' spares.

[Balta1701]

I don't know why Crittenton has received a pass so far, but if the incident happened like reported, he'll probably never play in the NBA again. There are reports that the earlier description isn't really what happened, in fact, I read where the gun Crittenton pointed at Arenas was one of Arenas' spares.

That would make sense; you have to wonder as much why 2 of the Wizards would have guns in the locker room as you did when you first heard that one of them did.

[Quin]

I don't know why Crittenton has received a pass so far, but if the incident happened like reported, he'll probably never play in the NBA again. There are reports that the earlier description isn't really what happened, in fact, I read where the gun Crittenton pointed at Arenas was one of Arenas' spares.

 

I think Crittenton has gotten a pass because Arenas was really suspended for his attitude on the subject (allegedly).

But still pointing a gun period

 

That would make sense; you have to wonder as much why 2 of the Wizards would have guns in the locker room as you did when you first heard that one of them did.

 

They ran out of magic wands

[Balta1701]

I think Crittenton has gotten a pass because Arenas was really suspended for his attitude on the subject (allegedly).

But still pointing a gun period

Crittendon has yet to really discuss or admit publicly his role. If none of the guns were his, the violation of the CBA might be less clear. It's certianly possible/likely he'll have some consequences.

[Balta1701]

Stein

Here are the best (and last) dribbles of chatter from the NBA grapevine as collected from various executives, scouts and insiders who gathered to watch 16 teams play two games each in a four-day span at the annual D-League Showcase:

 

Some 40 days from the league's annual trading deadline, no one in Boise could say with any certainty that the Toronto Raptors are going to be willing to move Chris Bosh ahead of the Feb. 18 trade buzzer.

 

No one has a firm read on Toronto's intentions yet.

 

What we did hear, though, is that the Houston Rockets have made it known that they would be willing to trade for Bosh immediately … even if they don't get a guarantee they can re-sign him this summer.

 

That's the problem with any sort of Bosh deal at midseason. Even if the Raps do decide they want to make Bosh available now and avoid the threat of losing him without compensation in free agency after July 1, there's an overwhelming majority of teams that wouldn't dare consider trading for Bosh in February without some sort of assurance they could keep him.

 

But Houston is different.

 

Sources say the ever-aggressive Rockets are sure a half-season in Houston could convince the native Texan to pledge his long-term future to a city players love as well as a team that sits four games over .500 without the injured Yao Ming and the exiled Tracy McGrady. The Rockets also have the requisite stash of young assets, as evidenced by their success this season without marquee names, to assemble a legit deal for Toronto to consider … and without insisting that McGrady's mammoth $22.5 million salary has to be part of it.

 

You figure Chicago, Miami and New York also are on the short list of teams that would be willing to risk trading for Bosh before we get to the summer. Those are the teams thought to have the best shot at signing him in free agency and could inherit Bosh's Larry Bird rights with a deal before the deadline. None of them, though, can offer a better talent deal than Houston. The Heat and Knicks -- with their heavily stripped-down rosters as the countdown continues to July 1 -- can't come close.

 

The Raps recently have inched back to .500, just got point guard Jose Calderon back from a hip injury and still expect bruising forward Reggie Evans to start playing in the second half of the season after recovering from a foot problem to provide some needed toughness. So there's a good case for Toronto to put off any major decisions until the offseason.

 

The Raptors have long believed, furthermore, that Bosh will participate in a sign-and-trade this summer -- if he decides to leave Canada after saying repeatedly that he loves the place -- before walking away outright from the franchise that drafted him.

 

I nonetheless was advised this week to expect Houston to make a hard Bosh push during these next 40 days if the Raptors invite it. Or perhaps even if they don't invite it.

[SockMe]

Bosh to Chi-Town?

 

http://dimemag.com/2010/01/nba-trade-rumor...h-to-the-bulls/