WHarris1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) Johnson is a better fit in Chicago and he wants to win. If Johnson goes to New York, he'll be on a s***ty team where he's the star, but they go nowhere. To me the best fits for Chicago are the following: LBJ (DUH, best player in the NBA), Chris Bosh (big man that would be perfect with Rose/Deng), Joe Johnson (perfect 2 guard to put alongside Rose), and than Dwade. I really feel like this team would be an instant championship contender with Bosh/Johnson and that would be almost my ideal off-season. It would be f***ing huge to add those two guys. How do you see us signing both of them though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:18 AM) Agreed. It's just truly impossible to predict how the dominoes might fall this summer. As a Bulls fan worse case scenario is Wade+FA in Miami, 2 FAs to NYK. Even if we sign Joe Johnson we don't contend for a title. Unless, the Bulls can find a way to get Joe Johnson and than an Al Jefferson or soemthing along those lines. Joe Johnson is a phenomenal upgrade for the Bulls. He's about the perfect 2 guard you can put next to Drose. Good size, great all around player. The team would just miss that low post offensive threat. Basically put, Rose/Johnson/Deng/Scoring PF/Noah would be one hell of a starting lineup!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:13 PM) Do they really need other players to entice free agents? They have the money, the NY media, and the up-tempo coach. They could have a team full of Aaron Gray's, and they'd still be a contender for Free Agents. Why would LeBron want to go to NY with the crap they have. He is in the exact same situation, it would be a lateral move, and with Bosh it would be slightly better but they arent going to have tons of money to spend on other FAs because they are gonna be giving out two max contracts. Im not saying it wont happen, but if a player looks at both situations, the Bulls are a much better situation to step in and win tons of games and probably championships. The Knicks might eventually be there, but I think the Bulls stand a much better chance of competing for a title immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:20 AM) As it currently stands, the Bulls have $31.1 million in contracts due to 6 players next season. That is before any draft pick salaries. The cap is expected to be somewhere between $51-52 millions. So if they moved Hinrich they'd be about 28M under the cap, which is pretty close to being able to offer 2 max deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) How do you see us signing both of them though? The Bulls might have to move Deng, but they still might be able to find a creative way to do a sign and trade. Basically get one of them inked and than work out a sign and trade for the other. It can be done, just not quite as easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:25 AM) Why would LeBron want to go to NY with the crap they have. He is in the exact same situation, it would be a lateral move, and with Bosh it would be slightly better but they arent going to have tons of money to spend on other FAs because they are gonna be giving out two max contracts. Im not saying it wont happen, but if a player looks at both situations, the Bulls are a much better situation to step in and win tons of games and probably championships. The Knicks might eventually be there, but I think the Bulls stand a much better chance of competing for a title immediately. A friend and I have a theory that Lebron might shock the world and go to LA for the Clippers. He'd put them on a map and they'd instantly be a title contender. Plus I think he'd love the spotlight that he'd get there. LA > New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) Some little details on the deals.... In addition, Chicago traded the Bulls’ regular second round draft choices in 2011 and 2012. Also, Milwaukee has the option in NBA Draft 2010 of switching first round picks with Chicago, so long as Chicago’s first round pick is not a top 10 selection. The Thomas trade is a heavily protected 2012 1st, with a chance the Bulls never see it if the Bobcats miss the playoffs this season and keep the pick. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) So if they moved Hinrich they'd be about 28M under the cap, which is pretty close to being able to offer 2 max deals. Ugh.. my least favorite player on the Bulls for quite some time, and now I have to continue to watch his ass dribble out the shot clock, horrid court awareness for a PG, turnover prone, takes horrid shots on fastbreaks ass, etc.. another 3 months (possibly longer) again.. ridiculous. Edited February 18, 2010 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:27 PM) A friend and I have a theory that Lebron might shock the world and go to LA for the Clippers. He'd put them on a map and they'd instantly be a title contender. Plus I think he'd love the spotlight that he'd get there. LA > New York I just don't see Lebron going to LA, he'd be the #2 guy to Kobe there. He may get more spotlight, but not as much as he'd get in another big market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:30 AM) Ugh.. my least favorite player on the Bulls for quite some time, and now I have to continue to watch his ass dribble out the shot clock, horrid court awareness for a PG, turnover prone, takes horrid shots on fastbreaks ass, etc.. another 3 months (possibly longer) again.. ridiculous. He's a pretty valuable player. Does so many things well. He's a huge reason the team is where it is right now (contending). He's just a bit over-paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:31 AM) I just don't see Lebron going to LA, he'd be the #2 guy to Kobe there. He may get more spotlight, but not as much as he'd get in another big market. I actually think Lebron would instantly be the big guy in LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 As far as the Bulls go, I'm satisfied with them moving Tyrus & Salmons. I'm a Hinrich fan so I'm glad they're not moving him. If they could somehow move Deng this afternoon that would be brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:32 AM) As far as the Bulls go, I'm satisfied with them moving Tyrus & Salmons. I'm a Hinrich fan so I'm glad they're not moving him. If they could somehow move Deng this afternoon that would be brilliant. If we don't get a draft pick out of the Tyrus Thomas deal, than we made a f***ing awful trade because Al Harrington >>>> Acie Law/Flip for the remainder of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:31 PM) I actually think Lebron would instantly be the big guy in LA. You being out in CA, i'm sure you've got a better gauge on things than I do. But I just don't see how he overtakes Kobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Knew there was a catch to the Bobcats trade and Bucks. Not as eye appealing as I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) You being out in CA, i'm sure you've got a better gauge on things than I do. But I just don't see how he overtakes Kobe. Kobe tends to be a polarizing figure out here who isn't as well liked as the national media might think. There are still tons of people that think the Lakers are a better team without him (which is f***ing ridiculous). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) If we don't get a draft pick out of the Tyrus Thomas deal, than we made a f***ing awful trade because Al Harrington >>>> Acie Law/Flip for the remainder of this season. Agreed on that point, but I'm just glad to see Tyrus elsewhere. I wonder why they didn't take the Harrington trade though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 If we weren't young before.. my goodness our team is ridiculously young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Wow, I didn't realize how bad of a shooter Flip Murray really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 02:41 PM) Wow, I didn't realize how bad of a shooter Flip Murray really is. He's basically a cheaper Larry Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 11:42 AM) He's basically a cheaper Larry Hughes. Except when Hughes wanted to he was at least long and athletic and could pick the passing lanes like nobodies business (of course as a whole, Hughes sucked ass defensively, cause he's usually pretty lazy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Looks like a deal revolving around D.J. Augustine (Bobcats) and T.J. Ford (Pacers) will be done soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) Looks like a deal revolving around D.J. Augustine (Bobcats) and T.J. Ford (Pacers) will be done soon. Not bad for Pacers, Augustine has looked good when he gets chances to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 The Bulls shed contracts and got players who can replace the guys they traded away. Very good deadline I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) Looks like a deal revolving around D.J. Augustine (Bobcats) and T.J. Ford (Pacers) will be done soon. Finally, Augustine will get some more minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Ronnie Brewer to Memphis for a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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