Balta1701 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Pistons ready to hire Cavs assistant coach John Kuester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:57 PM) Pistons ready to hire Cavs assistant coach John Kuester. Didn't they justify firing Curry by looking for an experienced coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I like Boozer when he's healthy. That's the problem with him. He's usually never healthy. He would be an awesome addition to the team at a good price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I'm starting to doubt that Dumars knows what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:08 PM) I'm starting to doubt that Dumars knows what he's doing. Â Agree, and it started for me when he dealt Chauncy Billups for Allen Iverson. Detroit is sinking fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 07:12 PM) Agree, and it started for me when he dealt Chauncy Billups for Allen Iverson. Detroit is sinking fast. Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 04:12 PM) Agree, and it started for me when he dealt Chauncy Billups for Allen Iverson. Detroit is sinking fast. In the current NBA, with his roster, I don't see any problem giving up on this season and committing to gathering cap space and rebuilding around Stuckey, Prince, etc. Even with Billups they weren't winning the East again. Â It's blowing their cap space like they did that makes the Billups/Iverson swap make no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:14 PM) Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony. It was a mistake, but who knows if Carmelo would of gotten PT his rookie year under Larry Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:12 PM) Agree, and it started for me when he dealt Chauncy Billups for Allen Iverson. Detroit is sinking fast. Â That was purely for cap room. Dumars was planning on breaking it up after this season. Â Also, I found this funny: Â Â Kuester is the one calling the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:32 PM) It was a mistake, but who knows if Carmelo would of gotten PT his rookie year under Larry Brown. Â Well they needed a PF moreso than a SF anyway. So I don't fault them for Darko. He turned into a bust, but not many people had a problem of Detroit drafting him over Carmelo because a ton of people said, if he were in any other draft than that year, he would've been the consensus #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Ugh, I hate the conception that Darko is a "bust" because of who he was drafted in front of. From the day he was drafted, he's been in position for failure. The only time he got consistent minutes and real playing time was in Orlando, and he proved to be a pretty damn good player who was productive, especially defensively. Even as a starter in Memphis, he was taken out of games early. I hope to God the Knicks let him play. It's a shame because he plays damn well for Serbia in international competition. He JUST turned 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:52 PM) Ugh, I hate the conception that Darko is a "bust" because of who he was drafted in front of. From the day he was drafted, he's been in position for failure. The only time he got consistent minutes and real playing time was in Orlando, and he proved to be a pretty damn good player who was productive, especially defensively. Even as a starter in Memphis, he was taken out of games early. I hope to God the Knicks let him play. It's a shame because he plays damn well for Serbia in international competition. He JUST turned 24. Â I agree completely, but with that said, it may be too late for him to show improvement. I hope he does good though. He was definitely unfairly treated in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) I agree completely, but with that said, it may be too late for him to show improvement. I hope he does good though. He was definitely unfairly treated in Detroit. He was 18 when he was drafted, just like a guy coming out of high school. He's still got time, he's shown glimpses. If he got over 30 minutes a game consistently, he could easily average 15 and 10 with 3 blocks. Hell, he put up 18/15/3 on Pau in the 2006 FIBA World Championships. He averaged 16.2, 9.3, and 2.8 in that tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 07:52 PM) Ugh, I hate the conception that Darko is a "bust" because of who he was drafted in front of. Sam Bowie wasn't a bust, but he was drafted ahead of Michael Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 NBA Salary Cap down to 57.7 Â http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/sports/b...ball/08NBA.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 08:17 PM) Sam Bowie wasn't a bust, but he was drafted ahead of Michael Jordan. and just crippled by injuries. He would have always had a black mark because of the Jordan thing, but if he stayed healthy he likely would have had a very good to great NBA career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) I agree completely, but with that said, it may be too late for him to show improvement. I hope he does good though. He was definitely unfairly treated in Detroit.  I know they are 2 different players...but Jermaine O'neal says hello took him about 6 years to get to almost elite status  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 06:52 PM) Ugh, I hate the conception that Darko is a "bust" because of who he was drafted in front of. From the day he was drafted, he's been in position for failure. The only time he got consistent minutes and real playing time was in Orlando, and he proved to be a pretty damn good player who was productive, especially defensively. Even as a starter in Memphis, he was taken out of games early. I hope to God the Knicks let him play. It's a shame because he plays damn well for Serbia in international competition. He JUST turned 24. Darko is a bust because he sucks and is prone to turnovers. He'd have gotten minutes in Memphis if he were actually any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 6, 2009 -> 10:15 PM) No, I know about Bosh. I'm saying that I think you told me that Wade doesn't want any part of playing in Chicago. Â He would love to play in Chicago, but the Bulls have let it be known that he doesn't fit into their plans with Rose already on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 08:00 PM) He was 18 when he was drafted, just like a guy coming out of high school. He's still got time, he's shown glimpses. If he got over 30 minutes a game consistently, he could easily average 15 and 10 with 3 blocks. Hell, he put up 18/15/3 on Pau in the 2006 FIBA World Championships. He averaged 16.2, 9.3, and 2.8 in that tournament. Â Funny this is your argument when you bash anyone using this argument for Tyrus. Â Â Â Â They are good points though... but just a little ironic coming from you of all people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Artest will wear uniform No. 37 in honor of the number of weeks that Michael Jackson's album "Thriller" was No. 1 on the charts. No, really. Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 09:57 PM) NBA Salary Cap down to 57.7 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/sports/b...ball/08NBA.html Memo: cap level could plummet next year. The NBA's ballyhooed free-agent summer of 2010 might have quietly taken another hit late Tuesday night. In a memo announcing next season's salary cap and luxury-tax threshold, sent out shortly before the league's annual July moratorium on signings and trades was lifted at 12:01 a.m. ET Wednesday, NBA teams also received tentative projections from the league warning that the cap is estimated to drop to somewhere between $50.4 million and $53.6 million for the 2010-11 season.  The official league memorandum, obtained by ESPN.com, forecasts a dip in basketball-related income in the 2009-10 season of 2.5 percent to 5 percent, which threatens to take the 2010-11 cap down some $5 million to $8 million from last season's $58.7 million salary cap. If the cap drops that far, I don't think the Bulls can offer a max deal even with renouncing Tyrus. They may still need to move Hinrich/Deng to do that or have Salmons opt-out (IIRC he does have that option) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Raptors to extend Bargnani Bargnani's agent, Leon Rose, told ESPN.com on Tuesday night that the Raptors -- who later this week will officially sign Turkoglu away from Orlando -- have reached an agreement in principle on a contract extension for the 7-foot Italian, who was selected No. 1 overall by the Raptors in the 2006 draft. The deal, according to NBA front-office sources, would span five seasons starting in 2010-11 and earn Bargnani an estimated $50 million.  Rose declined to discuss contract specifics, but Bargnani was with Raptors officials to formally sign the contract at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday when the league's moratorium on signings and trades was lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) Funny this is your argument when you bash anyone using this argument for Tyrus. Â Â Â Â They are good points though... but just a little ironic coming from you of all people. Mainly because everything Darko does isn't based on athleticism, he actually has some skills. And Darko also has legitimate size, Tyrus does not. But this is not an argument about Darko vs Tyrus. Â Look at what Darko did in Orlando in the playoffs a couple years ago. Got nearly 30 minutes a game, average 12, 4.5 and 1 while shooting nearly 60% from the field and averaging only .50 turnovers a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The cap going down and potentially going down again makes Deng's contract that much worse. Like even if he plays decent again, it's still a terrible deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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