Quin Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 04:25 PM) No one is taking on Deng's contract in this economy unless we take a worse contract back. When I say amazing start, I mean "So amazing some poorly run team (See: Knicks) buys into it and gives us a first rounder." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 03:49 PM) When I say amazing start, I mean "So amazing some poorly run team (See: Knicks) buys into it and gives us a first rounder." The Knicks aren't taking on contracts right now, they're still convinced they can steal another SF in free agency this offseason. Oh, and I believe NYK doesn't have a 1st rounder this year again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) The Knicks aren't taking on contracts right now, they're still convinced they can steal another SF in free agency this offseason. Oh, and I believe NYK doesn't have a 1st rounder this year again. I believe you are right, Simmons mentioned it in his article. I believe Phoenix has it since it's from the Marbury trade. Even if such a team were out there, they would also have to be far enough under the cap to take on Deng's salary unless the Bulls take back a similar sized contract. If they're in that situation, why not just wait until the end of the season and take a crack at numerous better players? Edited October 25, 2009 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) The Knicks aren't taking on contracts right now, they're still convinced they can steal another SF in free agency this offseason. Oh, and I believe NYK doesn't have a 1st rounder this year again. Ok, I need to rephrase this after I remembered something. I only remember one team having interest in Deng the past few years so if he gets off to a good start and if the Suns don't believe they can resign Amar'e Stoudemire after the season, do you think a Deng-Tyrus-1st Round Pick for Stoudemire deal could be done? I'd then either sign Stoudemire to a deal or let him walk and use that money on Wade (since I doubt you could sign Wade and keep Stoudemire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 12:20 PM) Ok, I need to rephrase this after I remembered something. I only remember one team having interest in Deng the past few years so if he gets off to a good start and if the Suns don't believe they can resign Amar'e Stoudemire after the season, do you think a Deng-Tyrus-1st Round Pick for Stoudemire deal could be done? I'd then either sign Stoudemire to a deal or let him walk and use that money on Wade (since I doubt you could sign Wade and keep Stoudemire) Didn't the Suns basically sell Deng to the Bulls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 12:23 PM) Didn't the Suns basically sell Deng to the Bulls? Yea, but apparently they've had sellers remorse, because, I think it was last year, there were rumors of Deng to Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 10:20 AM) Ok, I need to rephrase this after I remembered something. I only remember one team having interest in Deng the past few years so if he gets off to a good start and if the Suns don't believe they can resign Amar'e Stoudemire after the season, do you think a Deng-Tyrus-1st Round Pick for Stoudemire deal could be done? I'd then either sign Stoudemire to a deal or let him walk and use that money on Wade (since I doubt you could sign Wade and keep Stoudemire) First of all, if I'm the Bulls I wouldn't give up a likely lottery pick in that deal, with the FA status of Amare. Secondly, that's not the worst idea I've ever heard otherwise. The only question is...salary. The Suns have been at least pretending to be under huge salary constraints for the last 5 years. In that deal, they're taking on Deng's contract for the next several years and possibly a contract for Thomas as well. they may well just be willing to let Amare walk without getting anything in return to save the money. Esp. considering that Phoenix was one of the areas with a huge housing bubble. Anyone who gives anything for Deng right now that isn't "A worse contract than Deng" I don't see how the Bulls can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 03:18 PM) First of all, if I'm the Bulls I wouldn't give up a likely lottery pick in that deal, with the FA status of Amare. Secondly, that's not the worst idea I've ever heard otherwise. The only question is...salary. The Suns have been at least pretending to be under huge salary constraints for the last 5 years. In that deal, they're taking on Deng's contract for the next several years and possibly a contract for Thomas as well. they may well just be willing to let Amare walk without getting anything in return to save the money. Esp. considering that Phoenix was one of the areas with a huge housing bubble I doubt they'll be a lottery team, though honestly the potential for this team is anywhere from 30-50 wins, so who knows? Thing is, I don't know if the Suns would want to skip on a resurgent Deng (in this scenario at least) and the possibility of keeping an athletic and defensive Power Forward. The Bulls could weather losing them, since they'd have Gibson to replace Tyrus (and backup Stoudemire), while they could have Kirk get some starts at SG and Johnson at SF (and have Salmons start at one or the other each night). Plus, if Wade comes aboard, Salmons would be your SF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) I can't see Phoenix taking on what could be almost $100 mil in future commitments to Deng and Thomas after this season. Edited October 26, 2009 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Oct 26, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) I can't see Phoenix taking on what could be almost $100 mil in future commitments to Deng and Thomas after this season. Yeah Robert Sarver's always trying to save money with that franchise so I agree with you there on that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 10:24 PM) Yeah Robert Sarver's always trying to save money with that franchise so I agree with you there on that proposal. It's scary to think of how much better they could have been if they had someone like Paul Allen or Mark Cuban as their owner. They let Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion go and flat-out sold picks that could have added guys like Iguodala, Rondo and Rudy Fernandez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=simmons/080501 This is an article from last year by Bill Simmons that basically discusses how the Suns being so cheap cost them a legit shot at a dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 11:10 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=simmons/080501 This is an article from last year by Bill Simmons that basically discusses how the Suns being so cheap cost them a legit shot at a dynasty. It's really sad what's happened to that team b/c of "financial" reasons. I'd be so pissed to be a Suns fan right now. Not that I can say the Bulls are much better, but at least we have a great building block for the future in Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Oct 26, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) It's scary to think of how much better they could have been if they had someone like Paul Allen or Mark Cuban as their owner. They let Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion go and flat-out sold picks that could have added guys like Iguodala, Rondo and Rudy Fernandez. It's sad really, because they just haven't been the same since the Colangelo brothers left, and I think the Phoenix Suns is one of the better American Sport Franchises in America today. The Marion trade was more him whining about his role, and Kerr's insistence on bringing in Shaq. The Johnson move, well that was just bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 25, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) I doubt they'll be a lottery team, though honestly the potential for this team is anywhere from 30-50 wins, so who knows? Thing is, I don't know if the Suns would want to skip on a resurgent Deng (in this scenario at least) and the possibility of keeping an athletic and defensive Power Forward. The Bulls could weather losing them, since they'd have Gibson to replace Tyrus (and backup Stoudemire), while they could have Kirk get some starts at SG and Johnson at SF (and have Salmons start at one or the other each night). Plus, if Wade comes aboard, Salmons would be your SF. That's the thing. If they miss the playoffs, they are in the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Get hyped for the season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Excited to see Blake Griffin tomorrow night? You'll have to wait another 6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Bulls have a tough first month of basketball. SA @BOS @LAL DEN CLE @DEN @POR @UTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Oct 26, 2009 -> 11:03 PM) Excited to see Blake Griffin tomorrow night? You'll have to wait another 6 weeks. If there was ever an injury that was 100% predictable from the moment the draft lottery happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 27, 2009 -> 11:24 AM) If there was ever an injury that was 100% predictable from the moment the draft lottery happened... My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Really excited for the Celtics-Cavs matchup tonight. Especially since I can't watch the Bulls opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SockMe Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The NBA is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack. Go Celtics (for tonight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 QUOTE (SockMe @ Oct 27, 2009 -> 06:01 PM) The NBA is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack. Go Celtics (for tonight) Something to watch when hockey isn't on, at least until NCAA hoops starts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Cavs lose home opener, I love it. Lot of questions around Delonte West's future with that team also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 27, 2009 -> 08:13 PM) Cavs lose home opener, I love it. Lot of questions around Delonte West's future with that team also. If nothing goes wrong for the Celtics injury and chemistry wise they have to be the team to beat in the east. This of course includes Glenn Davis injuring his hand in a fight and getting himself hurt and suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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