justBLAZE Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Paul crushed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Never seen him hit a first pitch fastball off of a reliever like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I'm glad the Reds got that insurance run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 That run Dotel gave up really hurts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) so basically trade him now, that his value is at his highest? That what KW tried in the Peavy non-trade. Poreda's future like all prospects is suspect. But I'd keep him. Good young (cheap)pitching is hard to find. KW wanted pitching in return which was why he was expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmania24 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 aj hangin tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Another bogus call by the HP ump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 02:53 AM) Another bogus call by the HP ump. Looked good to me, just a great pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 A myth. He throws harder than Cotts, for sure, but 91-95 is what we should really expect I think, sometimes at 96, with accurate guns. Joins the club with Felix Diaz, Jon Adkins and Nick Masset with pitchers overhyped for having dominating stuff at the minors or in winter ball or wherever that mysteriously disappears at the MLB level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 02:53 AM) It's all about taking the calculated risk. Right now, the best people to judge Poreda and his future are the Sox. We have seen him for what 3 innings? While it's way too early to be casting judgments on a guy making his 2nd career big league appearance, it speaks volume the Sox best pitching prospect was already traded once this season. There is no reason to think if someone like Oswalt is made available, Poreda will be the first one to go. Don't you mean there is plenty of reason to think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 08:48 PM) Yep, and I believe KW feels the same. It just doesn't seem like he'd ever be able to get past 5 innings without throwing 100 pitches. maybe they think hes nothing more than a reliever and they feel they can try to trade him with teams thinking hes a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 02:53 AM) A myth. He throws harder than Cotts, for sure, but 91-95 is what we should really expect I think, sometimes at 96, with accurate guns. Joins the club with Felix Diaz, Jon Adkins and Nick Masset with pitchers overhyped for having dominating stuff at the minors or in winter ball or wherever that mysteriously disappears at the MLB level. Cooper preaches control over velocity. It works for some, not for others. I've seen Masset and MacDougal throw harder this year on other teams than they ever did for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 06:43 PM) So yeah, after watching 1 1/2 batters, I stand by my belief that Poreda's best possibility to help the Sox is as trade bait. He reminds me so much of Neal Cotts. Cotts didn't throw as hard as Poreda nor did he have the sinking action. I think Poreda makes it, the question is whether its as a starter or a good reliever and if its as a good reliever is that more valuable of a piece than what you could get for trading him. All depends on what the Sox brass sees. They like Aaron though and his sinker is really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Ok Gordon, make Greg smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Swing hard and hope you hit it Slayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Come on Bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Come on Bacon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) Never seen him hit a first pitch fastball off of a reliever like that. I assume that is sarcasm? Or was the pitch he hit for a grand slam not a FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Made good contact...sure seems like our offense will get dominated this series by the 3 Reds starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 19, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) Cotts didn't throw as hard as Poreda nor did he have the sinking action. I think Poreda makes it, the question is whether its as a starter or a good reliever and if its as a good reliever is that more valuable of a piece than what you could get for trading him. All depends on what the Sox brass sees. They like Aaron though and his sinker is really good. If he can occasionally throw 1 other pitch...a lefty starter with a good sinker is going to be really tough for teams to face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 01:56 AM) I assume that is sarcasm? Or was the pitch he hit for a grand slam not a FB? of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 This game really sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Arroyo is the worst of the three starters we're gonna face. We're SCREWED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 20, 2009 -> 02:58 AM) Arroyo is the worst of the three starters we're gonna face. We're SCREWED. Look at this lineup we have right now. You can't expect it to do much damage against a RHP, especially with Dye injured and PK's ability in doubt. I'm sure Arroyo got excited when he saw we had TWO lefties in the lineup tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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