lostfan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) Am I the only one who found/finds it absolutely repulsive the amount of coverage he's getting? He's a freakin' peder-ass. He was pyschotic. Yeah he was a gifted musician (25 years ago) with a difficult past, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he molested little boys and became a pain killer addict. I swear, flipping through the TV last night I was surprised it was Michael Jackson that died and not Jesus. And how about those awesome celeb statements? Madonna's says she can't stop crying. Quincy Jones said he lost a part of his soul. GMAFB. He's still Michael Jackson. You expected anything else? I mean, you can't deny his iconic status or his impact on the entertainment biz, he had no equal and still had a massive loyal following even in spite of all the s*** he had gotten himself into. When I was in Iraq I'd see little kids trying to moonwalk in the dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 msn.com has a breaking news headline that the LAPD are looking for the doctor at MJ's home at the time. TIFWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) He's still Michael Jackson. You expected anything else? I mean, you can't deny his iconic status or his impact on the entertainment biz, he had no equal and still had a massive loyal following even in spite of all the s*** he had gotten himself into. When I was in Iraq I'd see little kids trying to moonwalk in the dirt. Maybe i'm just to young to understand. In my lifetime (born in '82) Jackson was nothing but a weird child diddler. So I don't get the love, even if he did have the best selling album of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) Maybe i'm just to young to understand. In my lifetime (born in '82) Jackson was nothing but a weird child diddler. So I don't get the love, even if he did have the best selling album of all time. I'm a year younger than you. How can you say that? The first person in music I can remember listening to very frequently was Michael Jackson. In the 80's and early 90's he was still a popular musician putting out great music. I stopped listening to his stuff around then but there was a good ten years before all the child-issues with him came around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) Maybe i'm just to young to understand. In my lifetime (born in '82) Jackson was nothing but a weird child diddler. So I don't get the love, even if he did have the best selling album of all time. I was born in the 70's, and I can tell you I remember the Pepsi era in which he transformed Pop music as we know it. It wasn't just one album, but a span of years, over a decade in which he was at the height of entertainment. He wasn't some flash in the pan that had a few lucky hits -- when he wanted to write hit music, he did. And he did it time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) Maybe i'm just to young to understand. In my lifetime (born in '82) Jackson was nothing but a weird child diddler. So I don't get the love, even if he did have the best selling album of all time. Idk, I'm the same age as you, and I guess I'll agree that by the time I was old enough to really start paying attention to music in the late 80s and early 90s he'd already done his best stuff, and his later career was weak in comparison. But throughout the 80s and up to about '94 or so he wasn't just leading the game, he WAS the game, he completely owned it. As far as all the other stuff goes... yeah, MJ was a f***ed up individual. Like WSF101 was saying it just seems that sometimes it's a consequence of being a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 10:37 AM) I found it sad that the Fawcett death hardly got any attention compared to Jackson's death (at least where I'm from anyways). What's going to happen to the 3 kids now as well? Reposted Facebook Status: What are the chances Angelina Jolie buys MJ's kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 When the story broke I couldn't help but think of Kurt Cobain, and Marilyn Monroe. I mean, his legacy would have been so different if he had died 17 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 12:06 PM) When the story broke I couldn't help but think of Kurt Cobain, and Marilyn Monroe. I mean, his legacy would have been so different if he had died 17 years ago. Michael was dead to me 10 years ago anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:56 AM) Idk, I'm the same age as you, and I guess I'll agree that by the time I was old enough to really start paying attention to music in the late 80s and early 90s he'd already done his best stuff, and his later career was weak in comparison. But throughout the 80s and up to about '94 or so he wasn't just leading the game, he WAS the game, he completely owned it. As far as all the other stuff goes... yeah, MJ was a f***ed up individual. Like WSF101 was saying it just seems that sometimes it's a consequence of being a genius. Yeah, I mean I get the popularity and what he did for music (if "pop" is a good thing...i'm still debating that) and all. I guess I'm just amazed that we can look past the diddling and "honor" the guy as if he's a saint, which is what most of the media did last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 First person to have three simulatneous top ten hits. Thriller was a top 10 album for 80 consecutive weeks, and number 1 for nearly half of those weeks (37.) He did a remix album in 96 or 97 - it went platinum. And sold 6 million world wide. Remix albums don't do that. The guy was massively popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I don't quite get all the he was a musical genius stuff. He had a great voice, but he hasn't done anything remotely good since "Bad". I would never put him in the same book as Lennon or Hendrix. His biggest song ever "Thriller" wasn't even written by him. I think people were just into the freak show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 01:30 PM) I don't quite get all the he was a musical genius stuff. He had a great voice, but he hasn't done anything remotely good since "Bad". I would never put him in the same book as Lennon or Hendrix. His biggest song ever "Thriller" wasn't even written by him. I think people were just into the freak show. The freak show came after his best albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 09:56 AM) Like WSF101 was saying it just seems that sometimes it's a consequence of being a genius. Don't leave out his childhood. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 A Dismembered Soul by Hunter Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 06:55:52 PM PDT I can imagine no worse curse to afflict someone, in America, than dying while famous. He was strange to the point where he became a poster child for strange, but it was all the sadder because you could tell exactly where the trouble had come from. Since he was a child, he never once had a normal life or happy family or, apparently, any stable cadre of friends that would not defend him against his own absurdities, or screw him over for a little money. His childhood was bitter, brutal, and short. He was a superstar, and perhaps an addict. He was a dominant American force, and perhaps something malevolent. He was undoubtedly unbalanced, mentally and physically frail, maybe even insane. And he was brilliant. F. Scott Fitzgerald could have written his life story. His was the essence of modern American fame and wealth; an icon of both the selflessly good and the shockingly bad; famous, but alone; shining genius and grotesque self-destruction in constant competition. Even at his peak he was a tragic figure, already isolated. Wasn't it always obvious why he used his millions to build himself a full-fledged childhood? And how sad it was that he had, apparently, nobody around who could act as an adequate foil. He surrounded himself with friends as he could, but also with fools and clowns and hangers-on. He was like the kid from the Twilight Zone, I always thought, the one who could get anything he wanted, or wish anyone he wanted into the cornfield, and nobody would or could say a thing about it. Everyone around him seemed afraid of him, except the people who thought maybe they could use him. He was not human, not like them. And he seemed to feel it exquisitely. He mutilated himself -- there was no other word for it. Over decades, he tried to turn himself physically into something else -- a thing in his own image. Michael Jackson was a dismembered soul; bits and pieces of him had been long ago sold off, and of his own volition. His physical appearance was stark, but uncannily apt, in a world where such things almost never are so literal. He lay in death as he lived in life, alone but surrounded by thousands. Even as corpse, there are police cars and helicopters and television cameras everywhere, and all his friends (supposed and true) and business partners (close and distant) and hangers-on (of all stripes and demeanors) are on all the networks expressing their sorrow on live television. One or two voices, mean and self absorbed, leap into the fray with the supreme confidence of an alpha vulture jumping into a flock already thousands strong. Was this one really a true friend? Was that one? Who can tell? Apparently he had about ten thousand closest friends, all of them loved, and every damn last one of them is going to appear before a television camera or do a telephoned interview while old stock footage of the person they loved gets played on a continuous loop, moments of genius and despair carved into a video tombstone. MSNBC shows the goddamn ambulance footage -- the ambulance backing up through his gate, backing into the street very slowly and cautiously to avoid the person with the video camera who is filming the unfolding tragedy and will not move farther away. And then as the ambulance drives off, the tour bus drives in, careening past the fire vehicles, blocking the driveway so the tourists can get a good view of the day and place Michael Jackson died. Gawd, what f***ers these people are. I think if they didn't have police protection on the hospital, people would be going in with scalpels to dismember him piece-by-piece, selling his remains as mementos. If his soul goes to heaven, it will first have to get past a hundred paparazzi with butterfly nets. He was Norma Desmond, but played larger; he was his own Captain Ahab, seeking to find and murder himself. But goddamnit, he was brilliant too, a nuclear force of music, and no matter how his own soul failed him, that much cannot be denied. Hearing his young voice once again, touching each note flawlessly and effortlessly and with such weight, is nearly shocking. Then video of the gold and green helicopter, spiriting the corpse away. And what luck, in the control room -- we have video of the corpse, unnervingly small and light, wrapped in a brilliant white. He was loved. By uncountable millions as idol, and by some too-few friends as a person. I hope that in the end he at least knew as much, and that even the most famously, visibly, agonizingly tortured soul in the world could find a little peace in that. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Poor Farrah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Congress had a moment of silence for Michael Jackson. Congress had a friggin moment of silence for a pederass. Only in America. That is all. Edit: should add a link: Ridiculous. The House of Representatives paused during debate on a climate change bill today to rise for a moment of silence in tribute to singer Michael Jackson. "On behalf of a generation, thank God for letting us live in his generation and era," Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr., D-Ill, told the House. "We pay tribute to the culture that he has left behind, his legacy," said Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif. Edited June 26, 2009 by Jenksismybitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm not one to usually crap all over the memory of the recently deceased but this 24/7 coverage is getting much. Two days ago he's a joke. Today nobody seems to remember he was a drug addicted accused kid toucher. And to make matters worse, it took what appears to be an overdose to rehabilitate his image here. I don't know exactly what that means, but I don't think its very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 great talent in the music world, screwed up tortured individual in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 To those of you not understanding the 24/7 coverage. This is the death of one of the biggest names in our culture in quite some time. Regardless of what he's done outside of the music world. When Elvis died, no one talked about him having a relationship with a then 14-year old Priscilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Give the f***ing guy a break, he was completely denied a childhood and went nuts. Have some sympathy and stop hating the sinner more than the sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 10:07 PM) Give the f***ing guy a break, he was completely denied a childhood and went nuts. Have some sympathy and stop hating the sinner more than the sin. He was accused of pedophilia, not jay walking. Lots of people had bad childhoods and dealt with abuse. I appreciate his talent, and the gift he had and the world will miss his talent. I can also appreciate that its not normal for 45 year old man to sleep in the same bed with children that are not their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) LINK Norma Desmond. Huh, that's perfect actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 07:47 PM) To those of you not understanding the 24/7 coverage. This is the death of one of the biggest names in our culture in quite some time. Regardless of what he's done outside of the music world. When Elvis died, no one talked about him having a relationship with a then 14-year old Priscilla. I still wish I don't have to constantly hear about it. I was over this news 10 seconds after I heard it. People die every day. People that have done far greater things for humanity than Michael Jackson. I'm sick of people being sad about this. Edited June 27, 2009 by kjshoe04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:35 AM) Until about 5 pm EST, Fawcett's death and the Supreme Court decision banning school administrators from doing strip searches were the top headlines of the day. could have caused undue stress on Mr.Jackson's heart. I heard he was training to be school admnistrator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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