C_LEE45 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 ummmm Castro vs marmol who cant pitch a strike or AJ vs marshall wow sure hope we can take 1 of the next 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 If you can get them to take their best reliever out of the game, you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 As a fan, I felt pretty good when AJ strolled to the plate, even against a lefty. One pitch later I felt lousy. You can second guess all day and I'm sure people will. So point out the 10 bad moves Oz made. When you lose, there are all sorts of things to second guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 10:44 PM) If you can get them to take their best reliever out of the game, you do it. The Cubs don't have a best reliever. They all suck, and that certainly includes Marmol. Guzman would be the best, but that is not saying much at all. Edited June 26, 2009 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 05:44 PM) If you can get them to take their best reliever out of the game, you do it. Who is their best reliever? Certainly not Marmol this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 We need another lefty on the bench, and to get rid of Gobble. Too often this year, we've got burned due to no options on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 We also need another bat in the lineup capable of the numbers CQ put up last year. We really miss that obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 If yer depending on Ramon Castro oodles and oodles something is wrong. But that situation aside, the roster is just very flawed. Even on a day where the aging guys came through, it's still a pretty horrid bunch of supporting cast guys here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:00 PM) If yer depending on Ramon Castro oodles and oodles something is wrong. But that situation aside, the roster is just very flawed. Even on a day where the aging guys came through, it's still a pretty horrid bunch of supporting cast guys here. You could tell as soon as the lineup was posted that our 6-9 hitters were going to be in a lot of trouble. Castro just shouldn't be playing against RHP, and what the hell happened to Getz? He doesn't put up near the productive numbers to go through these long slumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 You could tell as soon as the lineup was posted that our 6-9 hitters were going to be in a lot of trouble. Castro just shouldn't be playing against RHP, and what the hell happened to Getz? He doesn't put up near the productive numbers to go through these long slumps. From what I heard, his swing/approach mostly, isn't the same as it was in Charlotte. Not sure if he is still feeling those injuries suffered either/or if he is REALLY 100%, which I doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Getz is clearly in a funk but the Sox are actually showing patience and it is smart because Getz is a good baseball player and he could be a valuable assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 A.J. was the hot hitter and Castro would have found a way to swing at one of those garbage sliders...I can't fault Ozzie for having A.J. hitting because if he didn't, we would be questioning why he left him on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Jun 27, 2009 -> 12:18 AM) A.J. was the hot hitter and Castro would have found a way to swing at one of those garbage sliders...I can't fault Ozzie for having A.J. hitting because if he didn't, we would be questioning why he left him on the bench. But why did it have to be a catcher in that position? You put Wise up there, and they pull Marmol (no way they let him walk in tying run). Then, you can put Nix into the game and you save AJP if needed for their closer. Kinda of like a double switch in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (C_LEE45 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 04:42 PM) ummmm Castro vs marmol who cant pitch a strike or AJ vs marshall wow sure hope we can take 1 of the next 2. Because Ramon Castro has had a five year career on the South Side, was an integral part of a World Series winning team and is not only USUALLY a clutch hitter but one of our better overall hitters? Yes, Ozzie should be fired after every loss and conversely, the team wins in spite of him when it does somehow manage to win. Gardenhire should have been fired as well after Blackburn threw ill-advisedly into LF and cost his team the game and himself a loss. Tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 05:44 PM) If you can get them to take their best reliever out of the game, you do it. If you can get them to keep the guy who just gave up two runs and loaded the bases in, you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 06:21 PM) But why did it have to be a catcher in that position? You put Wise up there, and they pull Marmol (no way they let him walk in tying run). Then, you can put Nix into the game and you save AJP if needed for their closer. Kinda of like a double switch in that regard. I guess Ozzie was thinking way too far ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) Because Ramon Castro has had a five year career on the South Side, was an integral part of a World Series winning team and is not only USUALLY a clutch hitter but one of our better overall hitters? Yes, Ozzie should be fired after every loss and conversely, the team wins in spite of him when it does somehow manage to win. Gardenhire should have been fired as well after Blackburn threw ill-advisedly into LF and cost his team the game and himself a loss. Tiresome. I'd rather get a righty up to bat, as they hit .075 pts higher against Marshall than lefties do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) I'd rather get a righty up to bat, as they hit .075 pts higher against Marshall than lefties do. I would have been fine with Fields hitting there...and had no problems taking out BA for Wise based on Brian's lackadaisical offensive game. For whatever reason, this team just doesn't have "it," and won't get "it" unless we could somehow manage to reverse time in order to sign Blake, Hudson and trade for Edwin Jackson and Juan Pierre. Funny, with four former or current Dodgers, surely we would be in first place in the ALCD. Maybe even Andruw Jones, if you want to make it five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) I would have been fine with Fields hitting there...and had no problems taking out BA for Wise based on Brian's lackadaisical offensive game. For whatever reason, this team just doesn't have "it," and won't get "it" unless we could somehow manage to reverse time in order to sign Blake, Hudson and trade for Edwin Jackson and Juan Pierre. Funny, with four former or current Dodgers, surely we would be in first place in the ALCD. Maybe even Andruw Jones, if you want to make it five. Andruw's hitting .246 now. He's kicking BA's ass in terms of OPS, but I'd rather have Brian's defense. Hudson would have been a great fit for this team. But I guess Kenny didn't see the need for another 2B when we had two awesome 2B in Nix and Getz. Psych. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 06:03 PM) You could tell as soon as the lineup was posted that our 6-9 hitters were going to be in a lot of trouble. Castro just shouldn't be playing against RHP, and what the hell happened to Getz? He doesn't put up near the productive numbers to go through these long slumps. Getz is a nice little part time player, a good 25th man to have on a roster. As is Anderson. The problem is, the Sox have two "25th men" in their starting lineup (2B & CF) another "25th man" at best in Josh Fields, and a guy not even good enough to be a "25th man" on most teams, Dewayne Wise, all on their current major league roster. Plus, they have a kid barely one year out of college starting at a position he never played before in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Castro's in the lineup cause Jose's pitching. Jose has a easier time communicating with Castro obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 i didn't mind the move, it's AJ's constant swinging at the first pitch no matter what that get's me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) I'd rather get a righty up to bat, as they hit .075 pts higher against Marshall than lefties do. We weren't going to get a righty up as the first hitter against Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2009 -> 12:31 AM) We weren't going to get a righty up as the first hitter against Marshall. Why not? Ozzie even did it last week with pulling Thome for Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2009 -> 06:44 PM) Castro's in the lineup cause Jose's pitching. Jose has a easier time communicating with Castro obviously. Communication with AJ didn't seem to be much of an issue when Contreras was actually good in 2005-2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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