southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) Scott Sullivan also comes to mind. DJ Carrasco didn't come directly from the Royals, but he spent most of his career there. Same with Gobble. Dotel, etc. Teahen? He's not much more than a career 700-725 OPS type of player, and his defense is very shaky at 3B...but he doesn't hit for enough power to hold down 3B or RF. Trading him to the White Sox, they would ask for a "premium" return. Perhaps if it was a one or two year "band aid" and we'd given up on Josh Fields entirely, in which case you'd be putting Getz on the bench, moving Beckham to 2B, or moving Ramirez into CF with Getz at 2B and Gordon at SS. If KW had done something logical in the offseason, it would have been to go out there and get Casey Blake. As far as the OP goes, trading your best offensive player for what? Someone that can actually play CF on an everyday basis? Beckham and Ramirez have to be considered average to below average at their positions now, Getz average or a bit above, Konerko average (range made up for by scooping so many balls out of the dirt, but he can make some bad defensive plays, too)...the only one in the outfield better than average is Anderson, although lots of metrics had/have Quentin as average/above average for LF, especially this season, where he looked like he had adjusted a bit. The only player on the roster that can really play D is Nix, along with Brian. Unfortunately, the jury is still out on both of them being capable of producing enough offense to be starters on a consistent basis. I remember getting Sullivan from Cincy. Is that not right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:49 PM) I remember getting Sullivan from Cincy. Is that not right? Yes, we traded hummel for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (qwerty @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:57 PM) Yes, we traded hummel for him. TYVM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 It ain't happening this season, but the "solution" is for the Sox to get a left handed power hitting RF who is much better defensively than Jermaine Dye and hits better than Jim Thome. Then the Sox could re-sign Dye for his bat, which is still better than any other player the Sox have, and move him to DH next season. (The same player could also play LF or CF and we'd accomplish the same thing.) No way would I trade Dye or Thome. I think the most likely thing is for us to keep them beyond this season, frankly, on cheaper short-term deals. The real defensive move should be to put Beckham at 2B in the infield, where he ought to field as well or better than Getz. I'd even do that now, and give Fields another chance at 3B. But that's me. It's apparent it isn't going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 10:07 PM) It ain't happening this season, but the "solution" is for the Sox to get a left handed power hitting RF who is much better defensively than Jermaine Dye and hits better than Jim Thome. Then the Sox could re-sign Dye for his bat, which is still better than any other player the Sox have, and move him to DH next season. (The same player could also play LF or CF and we'd accomplish the same thing.) No way would I trade Dye or Thome. I think the most likely thing is for us to keep them beyond this season, frankly, on cheaper short-term deals. The real defensive move should be to put Beckham at 2B in the infield, where he ought to field as well or better than Getz. I'd even do that now, and give Fields another chance at 3B. But that's me. It's apparent it isn't going to happen. Does such a player even exist? If he does, he'd be impossible to get. Do you realize how high a bar you just set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 07:50 AM) Does such a player even exist? If he does, he'd be impossible to get. Do you realize how high a bar you just set? His name is Bryce Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 06:50 AM) Does such a player even exist? If he does, he'd be impossible to get. Do you realize how high a bar you just set? Not LH, but Matt Holliday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 08:34 AM) Not LH, but Matt Holliday? Holliday is such a huge question mark because of his production outside of Coors Field. Now, you could argue Coors and USCF are comparable and that he could put up those same numbers, but the trade cost is going to be a pretty good ransom...and who's to say some of our own internal options (Danks/Mitchell/Shelby/Gartrell/Cook) won't be much better options from a cost/benefit perspective, giving us the financial flexibility to finally go out and get a legit CFer after four years of malaise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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