Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 what was his opening speech when they first introduce him to the press, what has he accomplished? how many games did he blew? Koch has blown 4 saves, the same exact number that Gordon has, in 6 less games. Koch is 11/15, Gordon is 5/9, and Marte is 5/12. Tell me how Koch based on stats is such a waste, when his numbers are better than the other 2 guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 who knows what tomorrow will bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Koch has blown 4 saves, the same exact number that Gordon has, in 6 less games. Koch is 11/15, Gordon is 5/9, and Marte is 5/12. Tell me how Koch based on stats is such a waste, when his numbers are better than the other 2 guys? who was suppose to be the closer? who was trade to be the closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 who knows what tomorrow will bring? zen like response, wow you are really out of it tonite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Well f***, you can't really be the closer when the manager doesnt call your number in the 9th. Theres only so much that Koch himself can do....he can fess up and tell someone that he is hurt if he is, or he can just go out there when called upon, do what he can, and hope to get back into good graces..this is 2002 Foulkegate all over again. We may never know if the guy can overcome his problems or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 zen like response, wow you are really out of it tonite. i know.... i had a f***ed up day at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 i know.... i had a f***ed up day at work you i bust 2 teeth last nite, and had an emergency appointment today, 3 1/2 hr in the densist chair, 2 root canal and a filling, hint, do not bite down on ribs bones. i am still in a lot of pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 what, you eat rocks for a living ... i thought i had it bad but how did you break teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Yeah, i try not to bite down on too many rib bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 what, you eat rocks for a living ... i thought i had it bad but how did you break teeth? rib bones and according the doc, not enuf calcuim in my diet. today cost $4,100 all of which my ins will not pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 regarding the blown save numbers of Koch, Marte and Gordon, Koch was usually brought into games at the beginning of the ninth inning with no one on base. Quite a few of Gordon and Marte's blown saves came in the 7th or 8th after the starter put a couple of runners on. Those count as blown saves as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 regarding the blown save numbers of Koch, Marte and Gordon, Koch was usually brought into games at the beginning of the ninth inning with no one on base. Quite a few of Gordon and Marte's blown saves came in the 7th or 8th after the starter put a couple of runners on. Those count as blown saves as well. excellent counter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 excellent counter I wasn't really trying to counter anyone. I just wanted to put some perspective on things. Number's can be misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I wasn't really trying to counter anyone. I just wanted to put some perspective on things. Number's can be misleading. i meant nothing bad, i just meant that it was a good point. nothing bad by what i said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 i meant nothing bad, i just meant that it was a good point. nothing bad by what i said. Thanks, I took it as such. I didn't want anyone to think I was trying to pick on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Thanks, I took it as such. I didn't want anyone to think I was trying to pick on them. ok sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 ok sorry. Hey, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Thanks, I took it as such. I didn't want anyone to think I was trying to pick on them. lol isnt that what kings do though...... pick on the royal subjects....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 lol isnt that what kings do though...... pick on the royal subjects....... Just the smart ass ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 And lets not forget the great job the reviled(by some) Rick White has done for us lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 regarding the blown save numbers of Koch, Marte and Gordon, Koch was usually brought into games at the beginning of the ninth inning with no one on base. Quite a few of Gordon and Marte's blown saves came in the 7th or 8th after the starter put a couple of runners on. Those count as blown saves as well. And all 4 of Gordons BS were in a set up role. Flash is 5-5 since he started closing. All of Kochs BS were in a closing role. That is a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 And lets not forget the great job the reviled(by some) Rick White has done for us lately... He's done better then I thought....White has posted a 2.22 ERA since May 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Did all you crabby people get a good night's sleep last night...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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