chisoxfan09 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) I am trying to spur some debate about either the current roster or within the past 5-10 years as to who has been our best homegrown infielder that had great offensive/defensive fundamentals but did not change positions at all. It seems our current crop (to include 1st base candidates) is very good but most of the 2B/SS/3B players have moved around a lot in an effort to find them the right place to play. Any thoughts? Edited July 4, 2009 by chisoxfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 01:26 AM) I am trying to spur some debate about either the current roster or within the past 5-10 years as to who has been our best homegrown infielder that had great offensive/defensive fundamentals but did not change positions at all. It seems our current crop (to include 1st base candidates) is very good but most of the 2B/SS/3B players have moved around a lot in an effort to find them the right place to play. Any thoughts? Clearly crede is the only candidate. Even he would not count if his rookie ball through winston salem fielding numbers scare you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Chris Getz, our current 2B, is the last homegrown player to come up all the way through the ranks with excellent fundamentals. In your post you then go on to ask another question. The last guy who had excellent fundamentals and came up through the system who was very good (meaning he could hit) and never changed positions? Does such a player exist? It wasn't Crede at all. Crede sucked for some time as he developed. Usually young players struggle and nobody is perfect fundamentally and defensively. The type of player you're describing in your second example sounds Longoria-like, and those players are extremely rare, obviously. Beckham is/was our best prospect in quite some time and even he messes up, and he also changed positions, and he never really went all the way through the system. He just kind of took a short baseball vacation between college and the Majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Ray Durham, who I would hardly say had excellent defensive fundamentals, but he was fairly polished as an offensive force...and that's going back well more than a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Robin Ventura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 07:44 AM) Robin Ventura As Robins biggest fan, he was a terrible defender when he came up. He worked himself into a gold glover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 09:12 AM) As Robins biggest fan, he was a terrible defender when he came up. He worked himself into a gold glover. That's not my recollection at all. Not by a longshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 02:12 PM) As Robins biggest fan, he was a terrible defender when he came up. He worked himself into a gold glover. IIRC, he had the tools, and wasn't horrible by a long shot. Yet made a lot of errors that young guys make. No way could he play 3b the way he did just by hard work if he didn't have the fundamentals down pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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