caulfield12 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 2008 1-8 2007 4-5 2006 5-5 2005 6-3 2004 6-4 04-07 combined at HHH=21-17 2003 2-7 2002 3-7 2001 2-7 01-04 combined at HHH=7-21 2000 4-2 33-48 coming into 2009 season playing at the Metrodome In other words, if we played a full season of away games at Minnesota (162 games), we should go 66-96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 What is their record in Chicago over that same period? I bet it is really close because I thought we were something like 69-69 vs Minnesota since 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 I know the overall head-to-head between the two teams over this decade was either tied exactly or just within a game or two of .500, one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 It's the mental state going in. I loved the self-fulfilling prophecy last year when we acknowledged we needed a 3+ game lead going into the big series...only to get swept. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 09:41 PM) Yes. this sux. that mauer ab made no sense at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I sort of think so, but then again I get to watch a decent amount of Twins games and a lot of times they do the same thing against other teams, but the Twins also get a lot of breaks in their field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 08:47 PM) I sort of think so, but then again I get to watch a decent amount of Twins games and a lot of times they do the same thing against other teams, but the Twins also get a lot of breaks in their field. Do they make their own breaks or are they lucky? Maybe a combination.... I think of the Twins as Martina Hingis and the White Sox of this decade as the Williams sisters, lol....well, maybe Pods, Garland and Slayer are cuter. At any rate, the Twins don't make very many mistakes or beat themselves, but they can also get overwhelmed or dominated by a powerful team like the White Sox are/were/can be, especially at USCF. The Twins actually got some really good defense tonight (this team is nothing like the 2001-2004 models) out of Harris, Cuddyer, etc. Unexpected places on the diamond. D. Young, Harris, Cuddyer and Morneau aren't very good defenders....the Twins used to put 9 players out there who were GG quality. A bunt scoring the insurance run, Jenks giving up the run in a tie game or one we're trailing, not holding runners on base, the umpiring, not getting in runners from 3rd base and less than two outs...walking Nick Punto, pitching to Joe Mauer, it's like the Perfect Storm. Edited July 11, 2009 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 09:57 PM) Do they make their own breaks or are they lucky? Maybe a combination.... I think of the Twins as Martina Hingis and the White Sox of this decade as the Williams sisters, lol....well, maybe Pods, Garland and Slayer are cuter. At any rate, the Twins don't make very many mistakes or beat themselves, but they can also get overwhelmed or dominated by a powerful team like the White Sox are/were/can be, especially at USCF. The Twins actually got some really good defense tonight (this team is nothing like the 2001-2004 models) out of Harris, Cuddyer, etc. Unexpected places on the diamond. D. Young, Harris, Cuddyer and Morneau aren't very good defenders....the Twins used to put 9 players out there who were GG quality. A bunt scoring the insurance run, Jenks giving up the run in a tie game or one we're trailing, not holding runners on base, the umpiring, not getting in runners from 3rd base and less than two outs...walking Nick Punto, pitching to Joe Mauer, it's like the Perfect Storm. I've always been on the luck bandwagon for the Twins, but they have been doing this basically the whole decade. At same time you'd think they're luck would run out if it is luck. Either way we'll find out shortly when they open their new outside, grass infield, less noise filled stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 We really suck in there. It would have been nice to win game one after the Yankees kicked their ass. We're a hot team and still a very frustrating L. I guess the upside is it was a good game and we came back from 4 down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 10:05 PM) I've always been on the luck bandwagon for the Twins, but they have been doing this basically the whole decade. At same time you'd think they're luck would run out if it is luck. Either way we'll find out shortly when they open their new outside, grass infield, less noise filled stadium. I wouldn't contribute luck to their success at the HHH against us. Isn't it really that WE don't play well there instead of them dominating us there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Its hard to play baseball when you assume this position before you walk on the field. We are a self fulfilling joke up there. The twins are not a spectacular team, they however are a fundamentally sound team. We go up there for years, kick the ball around, walk people and make mistakes. We put them in a position to win, and they step on our necks everytime. The thing that sickens me, is this cublike attitude from the organization of self pitty, and turning the HHH into the boogeyman's home. We lose games up there more because we play s***ty baseball more than the boogeyman. Its not a curse, its not the dome. Its s***ty baseball against a fundamentally sound team. The fact that everyone from the Manager, to the TV guys bend over and admit defeat is disgusting. Play hard, if they win so beat it. But stop stepping on your own dicks because you are scared of a f***ing cement s***hole. And for the love of god, can we stop pitching to Mauer with men on. His contact rate is through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) Its hard to play baseball when you assume this position before you walk on the field. We are a self fulfilling joke up there. The twins are not a spectacular team, they however are a fundamentally sound team. We go up there for years, kick the ball around, walk people and make mistakes. We put them in a position to win, and they step on our necks everytime. The thing that sickens me, is this cublike attitude from the organization of self pitty, and turning the HHH into the boogeyman's home. We lose games up there more because we play s***ty baseball more than the boogeyman. Its not a curse, its not the dome. Its s***ty baseball against a fundamentally sound team. The fact that everyone from the Manager, to the TV guys bend over and admit defeat is disgusting. Play hard, if they win so beat it. But stop stepping on your own dicks because you are scared of a f***ing cement s***hole. And for the love of god, can we stop pitching to Mauer with men on. His contact rate is through the roof. Well said...you ain't gonna win a bunch of games giving them runs like we did in that first inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) Can't argue with a thing soutsideirish wrote. The way I see it is the only way we're ever going to win there is to get between 15-20 hits in a game and still we'll probalby just win 12-8 or something. We're not going to win if the game is tied or we're down a run after six innings there, that is for sure. I can't see our starters holding them down in the dome. Our only hope is to just have a game where we mash the ball from start to finish and how many games do any teams have like that? Thank God we won the coinflip last year. Edited July 11, 2009 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 yes, mentally they have the advantage, and I cannot understand why. The thing that sucks is the Sox actually cut down on the homerun or naught approach, lets see what happens the next 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) Its hard to play baseball when you assume this position before you walk on the field. We are a self fulfilling joke up there. The twins are not a spectacular team, they however are a fundamentally sound team. We go up there for years, kick the ball around, walk people and make mistakes. We put them in a position to win, and they step on our necks everytime. The thing that sickens me, is this cublike attitude from the organization of self pitty, and turning the HHH into the boogeyman's home. We lose games up there more because we play s***ty baseball more than the boogeyman. Its not a curse, its not the dome. Its s***ty baseball against a fundamentally sound team. The fact that everyone from the Manager, to the TV guys bend over and admit defeat is disgusting. Play hard, if they win so beat it. But stop stepping on your own dicks because you are scared of a f***ing cement s***hole. And for the love of god, can we stop pitching to Mauer with men on. His contact rate is through the roof. exactly. its always used as an excuse and always mentioned befor we go up there. how about not mentioning any of that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 It's such an obvious angle the reporters have to bring it up and the players have to respond to it. The media has to go after the obvious story lines. AJ's response last night was better than some of the stuff we've heard before. He said "So?" when the told him minnie has won nine of 10 against us there or 10 of 11. Let's face it the odds of a sweep are huge right now. Detroit won that 17 inning game up there and Minnesota then won the next two like that 17 inning heartbreaker was no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I cannot wait to stop hearing about their f***ing dome after this year. Who gives a s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I enjoy how much some people in the media are harping about the Twin's awesome bunting prowess when it's clear that walking and actually getting on base did the most egregious harm to the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 The Twins need to hold a charity auction for pushing the button to implode the Metrodome. I know there would be some White Sox players open their pocketbooks for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2009 -> 09:32 PM) The Twins need to hold a charity auction for pushing the button to implode the Metrodome. I know there would be some White Sox players open their pocketbooks for it. I just noticed this post after I put it on your Facebook status. lol. I started saying this last year. Do we have any nuclear weapons our government can test or anything? Too bad it's in a populated area or it'd be perfect. Edited July 12, 2009 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 11, 2009 -> 07:46 PM) I just noticed this post after I put it on your Facebook status. lol. I started saying this last year. Do we have any nuclear weapons our government can test or anything? Too bad it's in a populated area or it'd be perfect. Test a North Korean one. They're small and liable to fizzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 11, 2009 -> 10:47 PM) Test a North Korean one. They're small and liable to fizzle. I want to be sure it'll actually get rid of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 11, 2009 -> 09:46 PM) I just noticed this post after I put it on your Facebook status. lol. I started saying this last year. Do we have any nuclear weapons our government can test or anything? Too bad it's in a populated area or it'd be perfect. Would the south half of Minnesota really be THAT big of a loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 11, 2009 -> 07:49 PM) I want to be sure it'll actually get rid of it though. Even a fizzle will take out a ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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