greg775 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) ''He will be my closer until he can't do it anymore,'' Guillen said. ''It's a shame how short a memory people have. A real shame. I grew up in this city, and when you blow one game, not two, just one, obviously that broke their heart. There's nobody in this room that feels worse than him. All of a sudden people treat him like a piece of garbage, and the way they treat him is not fair. ''This guy since we got him has been great. He will continue to be great. He's a human being, he had a bad night. I know he will turn the corner and continue to have success. But that hurt and made me really upset and pissed when a kid has a bad night and we treat him like that. That's really a shame. It's sad ... that's pretty, I want to say, pretty embarrassing. Wow, what did this kid do to this town to make people treat him like that?'' If this has been discussed, by all means kill the thread. I haven't scoured all the Bobby threads. But boos? I mean, my god. People booed Bobby after the Rays' game? I know people pay good money, but at what point do people give these guys a break? Oz's quotes were great. Too bad there's not another way fans can express bitter disappointment. It used to be you shut up and walked out the stadium sad. Booing Bobby this year and Paulie last year is dumb. Maybe Oz was overreacting or were the boos really loud for Bobby? Edited July 23, 2009 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Bobby’s pitched erratically this entire month, he blew a game that we should have won yesterday, boos are absolutely understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 23, 2009 -> 12:17 AM) Bobby’s pitched erratically this entire month, he blew a game that we should have won yesterday, boos are absolutely understandable. Agree, but I still wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 23, 2009 -> 12:17 AM) Bobby’s pitched erratically this entire month, he blew a game that we should have won yesterday, boos are absolutely understandable. From ignorant fans that don't follow the team, yes. Its funny talking to "fans" that watch 2-3 games a month then want to talk shop about the team. "Many Paulie is the most overrated player in the history of the Sox" etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I wouldn't have booed him either, but i understand the mentality of a fan that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Ozzie's been around the game long enough to know that some people are gonna boo. I wouldn't personally though. In all my years of going to Sox games I've never booed the Sox, but some people will. It's the same thing (kinda) with the Wise-booing situation. Just some people showing their displeasure, unfortunate maybe but it will always happen now and then. Now if Bobby is booed the next time he enters a game that ain't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Im sry but im with Ozzie on this one...give the guy a break, he's going through his typical rough patch. Lets not forget he is 22/25 in save chances, thats not terrible. This isn't Billy Koch on the mound who just serves fastballs on a platter to hitters (ala Mike Sweeney, I still remember that damn game n ball thats never landed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I can't imagine booing that guy. I hope Ozzie's exaggerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 As you can probably guess from my screen name, my dad was a Sox fan and lived his life, growing up in Bridgeport with Mayor Daley #1, without ever experiencing a World Series championship. These are my thoughts, based on how I was brought up to behave as a fan. I hope that I can pass them, as I have passed my love of the Chicago White Sox, on to my children. There are 2 ways to look at cheering/booing, from the "I need to express my feelings." point of view and the "What will support my team?" point of view. In addition, and I think it still matters, is the idea of good sportsmanship. I think that the latter two thoughts (team support and sportsmanship) trump the first (the need to express feelings). I try to control myself accordingly. Does anybody think that Bobbie and Ozzie and the team aren't equally frustrated and disappointed? Does anybody think that they don't know the fans won't be happy with serial poor performances? Does anyone doubt Bobbie's effort or his desire to win? Is booing going to help him get better? Don't we really "owe" him the support inherent in accepting a bad spell? It's very difficult to be a player in the MLB. What is the boing except a lack of the ability to control when and how emotions are expressed? It is a game. It's fine to get hugely angry at the events as they unfold, but it is wrong to direct booing at the player when the outcome is bad. I think it is only OK to boo when there is a lack of complete effort and when there is an example on the field of poor sportsmanship or cheating. Silence while exiting the game is fine, as noted in a post above. Obviously, this is America and fans do pay a lot of money to see these game, so there is a "right" to boo, but I think it is wrong and we, as fans, need to control ourselves. Sorry for the long post. This is just, as you can tell, at "hot button" issue for me. Thank you to those who've gotten through this. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Don't we really "owe" him the support inherent in accepting a bad spell? Yes. It's Bobby Jenks who has a serious track history of excellence. Somebody said his erratic month makes the booing understandable. Give me a f***ing break. How do "normal" fans react at the Cell when the few morons boo? I'd guess those who boo are drunk so probably not much is said lest you get punched. Show some loyalty and class. Bobby blows a save at home, we lose. So you can just exit the ballpark sad and quiet, shaking your head. Why boo him? I guess tonight one more base hit and Matt gets booed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I myself wouldn't participate in booing and I wouldn't encourage others. But, like others, I do understand where they are coming from. My justification for this is that Sox fans are all a 'family'. You can talk about your own family all you want because you still support them, no matter what happens. We can call out a player for not performing and criticize them, but at the end of the day we still love them (exception for D Wise). But if someone else talks trash about your family (i.e. a Cubs fan says Bobby sucks) you WILL defend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Who cares, I'm pretty sure a good amount of people watching at home were cursing their heads off yelling at bobby through the TV. He sucked, fans were pissed. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I support boo'ing Jenks just because Greg opposes it. I'd do it right now if I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 People were booing the Count earlier this season,some folks are just lacking in the class department especially after downing a few brews... Of course I was pissed and dissappointed after he blew last night's game but he's human,it's gonna happen once in a while,nobody is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 The boos were loud on Tues. night for Bobby. Why? I don't know. Maybe the fools hadn't checked Bobby's stats lately. Or watched many baseball games and know that all players are going to screw up once in a while. Maybe it was too many drunks like the fool behind me in LF who was making fun of Quentin for throwing wide of home plate, even though Carlos has missed almost two months--obnoxious guys who never had the talent to play the game, but think that they are experts because they have the eyes to watch. IMO, booing is the idiot's version of yelling. It takes a little bit of thinking to yell, "Throw a strike!". It takes no brain power to simply open your mouth and let out a "Booooooooo!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 23, 2009 -> 01:51 AM) Who cares, I'm pretty sure a good amount of people watching at home were cursing their heads off yelling at bobby through the TV. He sucked, fans were pissed. Get over it. exactly. i was at that game. the whole stadium was booing,including myself. that makes me ignorant? i wasnt booing jenks,i was booing bcuz i was mad about what was going on. and as they say,if u pay to get in, u have the right to cheer or boo or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Apparently people aren't listening to the lyrics during the 7th inning stretch. We are clearly told to "root, root, root for the home team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 It took Bobby 4 or 5 pitches to load the bases in the 9th inning of a one run game and then walked in the tying run. Fans in any home stadium would start to voice their frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 So sad when a major league player making millions of dollars playing a game for a living gets booed. It truly breaks my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastymasty21 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 23, 2009 -> 07:32 AM) So sad when a major league player making millions of dollars playing a game for a living gets booed. It truly breaks my heart Could not agree more. If Bobby is so upset then I would be more than happy to switch jobs with him. He can sell copiers, and I can suck in the 9th and make millions doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 23, 2009 -> 06:17 AM) Bobby’s pitched erratically this entire month, he blew a game that we should have won yesterday, boos are absolutely understandable. you BOO the performance, not the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) These are the same people who boo Contreras. In a few games, when Jenks turns it around, he'll be one the favorite players again. Edited July 23, 2009 by robinventura23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Shouldn't there be some sort of credit for past work? I think his performance lately has been boo-able. No way he deserves it because he has earned some leeway because of his years of good play and a World Series Championship. Booing Bobby Jenks was a crappy thing to do and I was ashamed to hear it. Destroying our closers confidence by booing him off the field is just stupid. Ozzie needs to understand that those crowds of 25,000 that sound like 35,000 are because many of those fans are into every pitch. When you cheer strikes in the 2nd inning, you have a passionately enthusiastic crowd almost willing the team to win. I remember when the bases were loaded, the camera showed one woman who looked like she was praying. When something like that crushes that passionate of a crowd, they will react. Booing Bobby was the wrong reaction, but it was an emotional response from people who fanatically love the Sox. They will make it up to Bobby next time he succeeds by cheering extra loud. Somebody tell Jenks the Sox fans are sorry and we are pulling for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I would certainly be upset and dropping f-bombs at the park during that debacle, but I would NEVER boo Bobby because he blew a save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Man. It would take a whole heckofa lot for me to boo a player on the Sox. See: Dewayne Wise. But Bobby??! He's been an absolute stud, and is running a little cold right now. I'd have been a hellofa lot disappointed, but i wouldnt boo him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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