Mark Buehrle Enjoys Hunting

[Texsox]

That may be the case but as a human I have the ability to avoid undue harm and suffering just to satisfy my taste buds.

 

True. It is that same big old brain that allowed humans to be more efficient predators that helped you to form that belief.

[Kyyle23]

some interesting commentary. much appreciated. to be honest i just try to live the rest of my life realizing that living life scared, in pain, or suffering is ZERO fun. whatever sacrifice i must take to assist i will try my utmost to do so. those who scrutinize give me more strength.

 

MB is productive how when hunting? whatever sheeple...

 

This is funny coming from a guy who was convinced not to eat meat from watching a PETA documentary. Very funny.

 

[lostfan]

This is funny coming from a guy who was convinced not to eat meat from watching a PETA documentary. Very funny.

I was watching one of those documentaries when I was overseas once and it made me feel really bad. So I was thinking, hey, maybe I'll try not to eat meat for the sake of these animals. But they were serving ribs in the cafeteria that day, so...

[Kyyle23]

I was watching one of those documentaries when I was overseas once and it made me feel really bad. So I was thinking, hey, maybe I'll try not to eat meat for the sake of these animals. But they were serving ribs in the cafeteria that day, so...

 

I dont even want to argue about it. You dont like to eat meat? Fine, thats your life. I am happy doing what I want to do. I eat meat, and I dont feel like anyone else needs to worry about it. You want to cut it out of your diet, good for you.

[GoSox05]

Kind of late to the party on this one.

 

Actually people's eating of meat does affect me, in a negative way. It's not a case of "I eat meat and you don't need to worry about it". Most of the meat eaten today comes from factory farms. These have severe effects on me and the rest of the world. Just look to the negative effects it has on the environment and things like Asian Bird Flu and Swine Flu.

[southsider2k5]

Boy this thread feels exactly like a religion/nonreligion thread.

[BigSqwert]

Kind of late to the party on this one.

 

Actually people's eating of meat does affect me, in a negative way. It's not a case of "I eat meat and you don't need to worry about it". Most of the meat eaten today comes from factory farms. These have severe effects on me and the rest of the world. Just look to the negative effects it has on the environment and things like Asian Bird Flu and Swine Flu.

Indeed. The amount of food and water provided to one cow could feed a heck of a lot more people than the meat from that one cow.

 

Aside from the gutted rainforests, up to 5000 gallons of water for is required to raise one pound of beef. According to the US Department of Agriculture statistics, one acre of land can grow 20,000 pounds of potatoes. That same acre of land, when used to grow cattle feed, can produce less than 165 pounds of edible cow flesh.

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[Texsox]

Indeed. The amount of food and water provided to one cow could feed a heck of a lot more people than the meat from that one cow.

 

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This certainly is an area that animals have an advantage over us. A dog will eat the same food day after day and not grow tired of it. Perhaps humans will develop a wafer that is easy and cheap to mass produce. Maybe there could be a yellow or red one for the vegetarians, made from land based veggies or something, and a green one made out of ocean plankton.

[BigSqwert]

This certainly is an area that animals have an advantage over us. A dog will eat the same food day after day and not grow tired of it. Perhaps humans will develop a wafer that is easy and cheap to mass produce. Maybe there could be a yellow or red one for the vegetarians, made from land based veggies or something, and a green one made out of ocean plankton.

I don't eat the same thing every single day. And there are millions of people in India that have never had meat in their life. I'm sure they eat a variety of things and aren't like dogs.

Edited July 27, 2009 by BigSqwert

[Jenksismyhero]

Kind of late to the party on this one.

 

Actually people's eating of meat does affect me, in a negative way. It's not a case of "I eat meat and you don't need to worry about it". Most of the meat eaten today comes from factory farms. These have severe effects on me and the rest of the world. Just look to the negative effects it has on the environment and things like Asian Bird Flu and Swine Flu.

 

Your fields and forests get in the way of my hunting. So they cancel each other out.

 

 

[Texsox]

Indeed. The amount of food and water provided to one cow could feed a heck of a lot more people than the meat from that one cow.

 

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Yes indeed. Animals use up way more water and feed than vegetables. Thankfully, there are men and women like Mark Buerhle out there thinning the deer herd. Imagine all the water that is saved by not having hundreds of thousands of deer, cows, pigs, chickens, etc on the planet. Every animal that is killed is thousands of gallons saved and more room for the veggies to roam free and without predators

[BigSqwert]

This is where I sign off from the thread.

 

*shakes head*

[Soxbadger]

A dog will eat the same food day after day and not grow tired of it.

 

I dont really believe this is true. I dont own a dog, but I do have cats. They may eat the dry food that is in their bowl, but if a cheeseburger is available theyd forget all about the food in their bowl.

 

I personally do not hunt, I just dont know where I stand on the issue of eating meat and I understand that I am hypocritical so I just dont get involved. Any type of rationalization that I have come up with just does not work, so I just have given up on trying.

 

I think what is interesting though is that I have seen humans compared to carnivores (its not our choice argument), but fruits/vegetables are the primary food for most (if not all) primate species.

 

I also think there is a difference between hunting for sport and killing for food. I dont get any enjoyment out of thinking about an animal dying to feed me....

 

[NorthSideSox72]

Kind of late to the party on this one.

 

Actually people's eating of meat does affect me, in a negative way. It's not a case of "I eat meat and you don't need to worry about it". Most of the meat eaten today comes from factory farms. These have severe effects on me and the rest of the world. Just look to the negative effects it has on the environment and things like Asian Bird Flu and Swine Flu.

Sort of a tangent, but this leads to the next frontier in food. People have been so focused on nutrional value - calories, fat, minerals, etc. - and then the next big wave we're in now is organic or more natural foods. What this will lead to, and we already see signs of it, is people getting focused on food sources. Where their food really comes from, and how. I think that's the next big thing in how people go about buying foods.

 

[Texsox]

I don't eat the same thing every single day. And there are millions of people in India that have never had meat in their life. I'm sure they eat a variety of things and aren't like dogs.

 

I was not suggesting anyone eats like dogs.

 

What I am suggsting is those that care could find the veggies that use the least resources to grow and just eat those. But most people like variety in their diets and may eat items that use more or less resources than others. So, while I would not rank the veggies in order of resources, it would seem that asparagus which has a long time to harvest would be taking up more space than corn which is mature quicker. I would not criticize those that enjoy asparagus. Some melons take more water to grow than say apples.

 

I agree it seems odd to grow feed to give it to a pig so we can eat the pig. Hunting wild animals seems much better based on the information you offered.

[Texsox]

I dont really believe this is true. I dont own a dog, but I do have cats. They may eat the dry food that is in their bowl, but if a cheeseburger is available theyd forget all about the food in their bowl.

 

I personally do not hunt, I just dont know where I stand on the issue of eating meat and I understand that I am hypocritical so I just dont get involved. Any type of rationalization that I have come up with just does not work, so I just have given up on trying.

 

I think what is interesting though is that I have seen humans compared to carnivores (its not our choice argument), but fruits/vegetables are the primary food for most (if not all) primate species.

 

I also think there is a difference between hunting for sport and killing for food. I dont get any enjoyment out of thinking about an animal dying to feed me....

 

I have had both, and you can feed them the same thing every day and they will be wagging their tails the same on day 3,937 as they did on day 4.

[Soxbadger]

Right but we dont know how a human would act who was in the same situation.

 

Lets say that there is a more advanced species on planet earth that keeps humans for pets.

 

If they fed us a bowl of cereal every day would we still eat it, or would we refuse even if we thought it was the only food available?

 

I know that some dogs will eat their treats or human food before they touch the food thats in their bowl. It shows that they have preference, but also have a need to eat...

[GoSox05]

Your fields and forests get in the way of my hunting. So they cancel each other out.

 

Ok.

[BigSqwert]

Lets say that there is a more advanced species on planet earth that keeps humans for pets.

You need to see my new tattoo.

 

And no it's not the Obama painting that I'm using as my avatar.

Edited July 27, 2009 by BigSqwert

[BigSqwert]

Ok.

LOL at the s*** we go through on a daily basis. You need to go to the softball game so I can have a beer with you.

[Texsox]

Right but we dont know how a human would act who was in the same situation.

 

Lets say that there is a more advanced species on planet earth that keeps humans for pets.

 

If they fed us a bowl of cereal every day would we still eat it, or would we refuse even if we thought it was the only food available?

 

I know that some dogs will eat their treats or human food before they touch the food thats in their bowl. It shows that they have preference, but also have a need to eat...

Depends on how we are raised. If one type of food is all you know, why would you crave something else? We would however, sample other foods and see how they are. Some will be toxic and make us sick, perhaps even kill us. Those we probably would stop eating. Others we would find palatable during some seasons but not others, again we would develop some knowledge. We would also find ways to process some items for food. We may catch a small rodent, bird, etc. and see how that tastes.

[Jenksismyhero]

LOL at the s*** we go through on a daily basis. You need to go to the softball game so I can have a beer with you.

 

 

How much water could be saved in the world without drinking beer? And think of all the hops and their...

 

I'm only half kidding btw. To me it's a ridiculous conclusion to say eating meat is wrong, when our physical make up and history don't agree. I DO agree that wasteful hunting (killing for the sake of killing) is wrong, but I don't think that happens very often. Every hunter I know gets excited about the X lbs of meat they'll get out of their trip.

 

 

[Texsox]

I DO agree that wasteful hunting (killing for the sake of killing) is wrong,

 

With the exception of making areas safer for people. Sorry, a rattlesnake that takes up residence near my house will die.

[Jenksismyhero]

With the exception of making areas safer for people. Sorry, a rattlesnake that takes up residence near my house will die.

 

Well right, but that's not killing just to kill. That's killing for protection.

[StrangeSox]

However, by observing animal behavior and feeding habits, we can learn if other species voluntarily become vegetarians or carnivores.

 

Felines are obligate carnivores. They will die without meat.