Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 04:20 PM) I believe this is the opposite of a youth movement. At least hopefully Richard's arm will get a few weeks to recover from the long outings he's had recently. Unless it's a close game tonight and we need a LHP to come out of the bullpen to face a tough left handed batter. Thankfully, Minny doesn't have any of those, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:20 PM) When Josh Fields is traded and some other team works with him on his swing, perhaps in the NL, I think that's one we're really going to wind up regretting. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Still dont have any desire for Wise, Colon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) When Josh Fields is traded and some other team works with him on his swing, perhaps in the NL, I think that's one we're really going to wind up regretting. If we trade Fields today, I will remember the transactions as a pretty pathetic day for Greg Walker's ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 11:21 PM) Unless it's a close game tonight and we need a LHP to come out of the bullpen to face a tough left handed batter. Thankfully, Minny doesn't have any of those, right? Richard should not be pitching today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:17 PM) all right these moves scream 2nd place!!!!! Well, didn't you say we were fourth place before the season? You should be ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) If we trade Fields today, I will remember the transactions as a pretty pathetic day for Greg Walker's ability. I don't hold nearly as much against Walker for Anderson never developing as I do for others in the org. Fields though, that would be 95% on Walker. He got worse with time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 07:20 PM) When Josh Fields is traded and some other team works with him on his swing, perhaps in the NL, I think that's one we're really going to wind up regretting. You mean...you are questioning THE GREG WALKER and his work with Josh Fields??? Though, I agree, we will sell him low and a REAL hitting coach will get Fields straightened out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 11:24 PM) I don't hold nearly as much against Walker for Anderson never developing as I do for others in the org. Fields though, that would be 95% on Walker. He got worse with time. Considering that everyone says that Walker has no say with the veterans, when you start having to trade away failed first round picks with ENORMOUS power, that is an epic fail by your hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) Well, didn't you say we were fourth place before the season? You should be ecstatic. I did, who wants 2nd place though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:25 PM) Considering that everyone says that Walker has no say with the veterans, when you start having to trade away failed first round picks with ENORMOUS power, that is an epic fail by your hitting coach. Honestly, I would buy into this crap if there was a pattern of guys who had failed to hit here and then moved onto other organizations where they started living up to their "potential." But it just hasn't happened. We haven't had guys leaving here and suddenly turning into all-stars elsewhere. Edited July 29, 2009 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 04:28 PM) Honestly, I would but into this crap if there was a pattern of guys who had failed to hit here and then moved onto other organizations where they started living up to their "potential." But it just hasn't happened. We haven't had guys leaving here and suddenly turning into all-stars elsewhere. Which is why I think we'll wind up regretting moving Fields for pennies on the dollar. Because I think it won't be hard for another team to develop him. It's not like we haven't seen major flashes ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (son of a rude @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) I'm sure he is smart enough to see that the pen is desperate for lefties, especially with Thornton expecting his kid. Aaron Poreda anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:28 AM) Honestly, I would but into this crap if there was a pattern of guys who had failed to hit here and then moved onto other organizations where they started living up to their "potential." But it just hasn't happened. We haven't had guys leaving here and suddenly turning into all-stars elsewhere. I think Fields will be the best example in the future for judging Walker's ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 07:28 PM) Honestly, I would but into this crap if there was a pattern of guys who had failed to hit here and then moved onto other organizations where they started living up to their "potential." But it just hasn't happened. We haven't had guys leaving here and suddenly turning into all-stars elsewhere. Chris Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:31 AM) Chris Young. I don't even consider counting him, as it's not like he got to spend a few seasons with Greg Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (son of a rude @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 03:53 PM) I'm sure he is smart enough to see that the pen is desperate for lefties, especially with Thornton expecting his kid. And if not, I'm sure that somebody explained it to him. After what he did in his last two starts and after Ozzie very publicly praised his pitching, I don't think that Richard is feeling depressed right now. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Which is why I think we'll wind up regretting moving Fields for pennies on the dollar. Because I think it won't be hard for another team to develop him. It's not like we haven't seen major flashes ourselves. Well, it's nice to see that Fields still has enough value that Kenny is dealing him. But I basically agree that Walker didn't tap his potential. I don't think that Walker is a bad hitting coach or that Fields is necessarily going to be a future All-Star, but I think it's fair to say that he just wasn't going to work out in the Sox organization. I wish Josh the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 05:53 PM) Wise stays again! It's because of his defense. I'm not all that mad knowing that defense has been one of the biggest problems on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:25 PM) You mean...you are questioning THE GREG WALKER and his work with Josh Fields??? Though, I agree, we will sell him low and a REAL hitting coach will get Fields straightened out. It's not too hard to figure out why Josh Fields is late on just about every fastball he sees. I don't think it even requires a REAL hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Yay for rewarding success with demotion! Good for CR, and good for the White Sox!!!! YAY FOR SARCASM!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Colon to Rotation; Richard to Pen; Fields to AAA By Jason Gage SoxNet Joe Cowley is reporting that the White Sox will make room for newly acquired 1B/OF Mark Kotsay on the 25 man roster by sending 1B/3B Josh Fields to AAA Charlotte. The move won't be made official until Wednesday, which is when...More at the Link, Including Our Analysis of the Move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) Aaron Poreda anybody? "He's just a f***in kid. Drive his worthless ass to the O'Hare or Midway Airport-whichever is closer!" - Ozzie Guillen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) Aaron Poreda anybody? Can we even bring him back up yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I am in the very small camp with Balta on this one, that I think Fields has a good shot at being a good major league power bat in the next couple years, somewhere. Its too bad he was handled the way he was, although the result was Beckham, and you can't complain too much about that. Richard to the pen is a bad joke. Just a stupid move. And I know about Wise and The Catch, but really, he just shouldn't be on the major league club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Fields isn't a guy who you give up, just to give up on. He has so much potential, that their better be decent value on the other end of any trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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