fathom Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 04:36 AM) Fathom's right. They're similar packages, Sox might have the edge too given Elbert's arm struggles. What's Sherrill's contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 10:37 PM) What's Sherrill's contract? 1 year/$2.75M (2009) * 1 year/$2.75M (2009) o re-signed by Baltimore 2/6/09 (avoided arbitration, $3.4M-$2.2M) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 my one wish would be... if we do deal with the O's I would love to get Jake Arrieta from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (JDsDirtySox @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 11:54 PM) my one wish would be... if we do deal with the O's I would love to get Jake Arrieta from them. Say good bye to Beckham if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Teams looking for a cheap reliever should look for Mike Adams of San Diego. He's putting together another very strong season with great K numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Rosenthal thinks we have legit interest in Sherill. Mentions Fields going in a deal. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9866498...day%27s-edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Super duper long shot, but with Cleveland unloading, I call and see about Grady. /Wishful thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 wow all quiet on the choking in the central front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 08:48 PM) I have no problem trading Poreda and Fields for Sherill if that is what it took to get it done. At 1st I thought I'd be okay with that deal (Poreda & Fields). But after thinking about it, I'd be a little hesitant to give up Poreda in the deal as I think he could give us what Sherrill would even as soon as next year. This would obviously be a deal for this season, and maybe a precursor (if done soon enough) to move another bullpen guy like Dotel. Anyway, Sherrill isn't exactly a young pup (32) and he's had a 4+ ERA two out of his four full seasons. I don't know. I might still do it, but is Sherrill really worth giving up our top pitching prospect (though Hudson may have something to say about that)? Edited July 30, 2009 by dasox24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:33 PM) At 1st I thought I'd be okay with that deal (Poreda & Fields). But after thinking about it, I'd be a little hesitant to give up Poreda in the deal as I think he could give us what Sherrill would even as soon as next year. This would obviously be a deal for this season, and maybe a precursor (if done soon enough) to move another bullpen guy like Dotel. Anyway, Sherrill isn't exactly a young pup (32) and he's had a 4+ ERA two out of the four full seasons. I don't know. I might still do it, but is Sherrill really worth giving up our top pitching prospect (though Hudson may have something to say about that)? Yeah, Sherrill isn't worth Poreda and Fields. Fields and maybe McCulloch, maybe you trade Fields and Gilmore. They'll want more than one player for Sherrill, but you don't want to way overpay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Ideally, you keep Poreda and give Fields and a mid-tier prospect. Realistically, this is probably someone like John Shelby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:42 PM) Yeah, Sherrill isn't worth Poreda and Fields. Fields and maybe McCulloch, maybe you trade Fields and Gilmore. They'll want more than one player for Sherrill, but you don't want to way overpay for him. Ultimately Sherrill is worth what teams are willing to give up and an offer of Fields and McCulloch would get laughed at. The Dodgers are offering a package much better than that and my guess is the Angels would as well. If the Sox could get Sherrill for Poreda and Fields than I'd say they are doing great because a couple years from now when Sherril walks we'd be getting 2 1st rounders back (ideally). And I still think Poreda's upside is that of Sherril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 12:54 AM) Ultimately Sherrill is worth what teams are willing to give up and an offer of Fields and McCulloch would get laughed at. The Dodgers are offering a package much better than that and my guess is the Angels would as well. If the Sox could get Sherrill for Poreda and Fields than I'd say they are doing great because a couple years from now when Sherril walks we'd be getting 2 1st rounders back (ideally). And I still think Poreda's upside is that of Sherril. Really, good point. This might just seal the deal in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Plus, it would make Jenks expandable in the offseason as we could place Sherrill in the closer spot and know we'll get solid results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 If the sox see Poreda's future as a Sherrill type reliever i personally would be a bit hesitant to give up on him, but at the same time i understand KW wants to have a stocked experienced bullpen and doesn't want to wait on Poreda for results. I would be willing to Give up Poreda + Fields and if need be someone like Upchurch for Sherrill + Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Also i would love for KW to get on the horn with Cashman and ask about Gardner i realize he has a broken thumb, but the yankees could defiantly use some more bullpen help. Dotel will bring them back two picks if they offer him ARB, and they've got Austin Jackson down at AAA. Brett Gardner looks like Kenny Lofton 2.0, can cover a ton of ground out in CF has a slightly above average arm that is accurate and great base stealing instincts. He could be a top of the order fixture for the sox for a long time, Jordan is still a bit away and mitchell isn't even in the team photo yet. Alot of people assume the yankees will be going after holliday in the offseason and they've still got melky they could move to RF to make room for Jackson as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:54 PM) we'd be getting 2 1st rounders back (ideally). Isn't Sherill in his early 30's his performanace may decrease before he reaches free agency.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 12:08 AM) Plus, it would make Jenks expandable in the offseason as we could place Sherrill in the closer spot and know we'll get solid results I think Jenks is already pretty expandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 08:38 AM) Isn't Sherill in his early 30's his performanace may decrease before he reaches free agency.. I believe he's 32. And I agree...I'd rather wait on Poreda and his upside than get Sherrill and watch his downside. But, that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 10:01 AM) I believe he's 32. And I agree...I'd rather wait on Poreda and his upside than get Sherrill and watch his downside. But, that's just me. Not just you. No way I give up Poreda in a Sherrill deal. We're not the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 10:01 AM) I believe he's 32. And I agree...I'd rather wait on Poreda and his upside than get Sherrill and watch his downside. But, that's just me. Sherill is younger than Matt Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Here we go bullpen shopping YET again. Wash-rinse-repeat. I thought we had this issue solved? How many of our prospects will we need to shop to finally fix this overpaid bullpen? And if we give up one of our best prospects for yet another in the long line of bullpen saviors, it still won't help us get the key hit to win games or make quality plays in the field, etc. The only thing I want to trade for is someone capable of hitting the baseball and running down the first base line without pulling up lame, while having the added bonus of being able to catch a baseball that is rolling at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 10:40 AM) Sherill is younger than Matt Thornton. BARELY. And we've gotten the best of Matt Thornton. We didn't add him at 32 AND we didn't give up a likely version of him to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 We are really quiet for this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Too bad Sherrill's traded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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