southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kapl...line-guide.html The non-waiver trade deadline is 3 p.m. CST on Friday and it has been a fairly quiet week so far devoid of the flurry of activity that some in the industry expected. Both the Cubs and the White Sox are looking to make additions to their teams but only if the cost is not exorbitant in both money and prospects given up. The White Sox are better positioned to make a major move because of the stability of Jerry Reinsdorf as the owner and the financial flexibility that they have after this season. They have millions of dollars coming off of the books after 2009 and as evidenced by their aggressive pursuit of Jake Peavy, Kenny Williams is willing to move if the deal makes sense long term. Yesterday's trade for Mark Kotsay of the Boston Red Sox was a minor deal but Williams may not be done. He is kicking the tires on adding a big name starting pitcher but only if Gordon Beckham's name is not part of the deal. He is considered an untouchable by the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 08:51 AM) http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kapl...line-guide.html So, the Sox may be in better position to make a major move, but only if the cost is not exorbitant in both money and prospects given up???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:16 AM) So, the Sox may be in better position to make a major move, but only if the cost is not exorbitant in both money and prospects given up???? E.G. Give us Beckham and pay all of Halladay's salary. Edited July 29, 2009 by League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:16 AM) So, the Sox may be in better position to make a major move, but only if the cost is not exorbitant in both money and prospects given up???? Theres probably not a team in baseball that isnt in better position to make a deal than the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I still say that the Sox should deal as many non-Beckham spects as it takes to land Dan Haren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 if the team really thinks it is a transition year hopefully they'll hold tight because leverage for trades goes down in the offseason when FAs are out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:00 AM) I still say that the Sox should deal as many non-Beckham spects as it takes to land Dan Haren. The DBacks have already insisted they are not willing to move Haren, because he is part of their core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:23 AM) The DBacks have already insisted they are not willing to move Haren, because he is part of their core. GMs say that crap all the time. But once they get a phone call with something they can't turn down, you could throw the 'untradeable' tag out the window. . . If KW really wants Haren- he could get him IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:00 AM) I still say that the Sox should deal as many non-Beckham spects as it takes to land Dan Haren. Minus JorDanks, I agree. The guy and his brother ditched Boras for us and I think that deserves respect. He also will solve a much needed spot in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 08:34 AM) Minus JorDanks, I agree. The guy and his brother ditched Boras for us and I think that deserves respect. He also will solve a much needed spot in the future. Yes, we have no other CF spects who will be ready to contribue anytime soon. We need him around, mitchell is 2 years away minimum and may not even be a CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:34 AM) Minus JorDanks, I agree. The guy and his brother ditched Boras for us and I think that deserves respect. He also will solve a much needed spot in the future. QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 01:24 AM) Yes, we have no other CF spects who will be ready to contribue anytime soon. We need him around, mitchell is 2 years away minimum and may not even be a CF. Gordon Beckham was a can't miss prospect who has not disappointed at the major league level. Jordan Danks is not a can't miss prospect, and if he could be used to acquire Dan Haren, KW better not end talks based upon his inclusion. Dan Haren isn't going anywhere, so that last sentence is really irrelevant, but Jordan Danks should not be an untouchable player by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Ditching Jordan is probably not going to make older Danks too happy. That alone is a reason to be very weary of trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 03:39 AM) Ditching Jordan is probably not going to make older Danks too happy. That alone is a reason to be very weary of trading him. And then you calmly explain to him that this game is a business, that they had interest in Jordan before they did you, and that the player they acquired is going to make the major league team that much better. If John has that much a megaboner for playing with his brother, then the Sox can get great value for him in a deal come the 2011-12 offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Jordan Danks should be untouchable in possible trades for a number of reasons: 1] he hits at the top of the order which the sox have few players capable of doing that; 2] he plays a position the sox are very thin at; and 3] it might affect signing his brother to a long term deal. Now, that said, if Jordan turns out to suck, and John signs a deal, then by all means, it's a business, see ya Jor. But jordan is coming along nicely, seems to fit in well with the "New Sox" core that is being built, and should be sticking around in order to see what he can do as a member of the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:50 AM) And then you calmly explain to him that this game is a business, that they had interest in Jordan before they did you, and that the player they acquired is going to make the major league team that much better. If John has that much a megaboner for playing with his brother, then the Sox can get great value for him in a deal come the 2011-12 offseason. Maybe, just maybe, you trade both Danks' for a guy like Haren. D1 has already turned down a guarantee of financial security from the Sox when he refused the offseason offer. Not saying that I'm crazy about such a deal, but you never know. I think KW will make a play for Duchscherer around Aug. 10th, depending on how things look - with Justin's health and our quality of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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