League Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 http://twitter.com/Dejan_Kovacevic/status/2912373875 Interesting, all this talk of the Mariners being sellers and then they go out and grab a solid SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Great deal for Pittsburgh. Glad we don't have to see Clement for the next six years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Pittsburgh is doing some good things, getting Charlie Morton and Jeff Clement this year is really going to help them in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Mariners get Ian Snell too. Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock going to Pittsburgh. http://twitter.com/Dejan_Kovacevic/status/2912445065 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Great move by the Pirates. Confusing gambit by Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Seattle giving up some pretty nice looking arms in Lorin and Pribanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 This is a crappy deal for Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 doesnt pitt already have Doumit and Jaramillo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Maybe Seattle thinks they can still win the AL West? But it's a curious gamble to say the least. I think they soured too quickly on Clement, and it's a nice haul for Huntington here. Can Snell actually pitch decently in the majors for Seattle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 02:50 AM) doesnt pitt already have Doumit and Jaramillo? Yep. They could move Clement permanently to 1B though, after the LaRoche trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Escobar Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:50 AM) doesnt pitt already have Doumit and Jaramillo? Thats what I was thinking. I don't quite understand how adding a 3rd MLB ready catcher fits their mold. I only assume someone else (Doumit?) is out the door. Doumit could be a nice buy-low candidate since he has been hurt all year. Still would cost a couple good prospects though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Why am I not seeing this deal anywhere but from some guy's twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:59 AM) Why am I not seeing this deal anywhere but from some guy's twitter? It is being reported by Fox Sports as well. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9866498...y's-edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Cedeno is the only player staying up, Clement to AAA. Goldstein & Jonathon Mayo both like the deal for Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Wilson has a mutual option for next year at 8.4 mil which I assume the Mariners will pick up, seems a bit high for a player as mediocre as him. Not sure what Snell's contract situation is, I assume hes under their control for a few years. Intersting deal for the Mariners, I think the Pirates are doing a good job of stockpiling talent for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:23 PM) Wilson has a mutual option for next year at 8.4 mil which I assume the Mariners will pick up, seems a bit high for a player as mediocre as him. Not sure what Snell's contract situation is, I assume hes under their control for a few years. Intersting deal for the Mariners, I think the Pirates are doing a good job of stockpiling talent for the future. Jack Wilson's a nice defensive player, but he won't be able to hit much in Safeco. M's gave up a lot for him. Edited July 29, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Snell's under club control until 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:27 PM) Snell's under club control until 2012. Snell's can only strike out 17 guys in AAA... In other words, he's not much of a major league arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Pirates are adding a "significant amount" of money according to the guy who broke this deal. Snell was a solid pitcher a couple years back, a change of scenery and a huge ballpark may help him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:23 PM) Wilson has a mutual option for next year at 8.4 mil which I assume the Mariners will pick up, seems a bit high for a player as mediocre as him. Not sure what Snell's contract situation is, I assume hes under their control for a few years. Intersting deal for the Mariners, I think the Pirates are doing a good job of stockpiling talent for the future. That's what the Pirates do. Then they trade that talent when they have to pay them. It's been their M.O. for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I don't get why people are so high on Jeff Clement, but at the same time I've never gotten the Jack Wilson hype either. Clement isn't a good defensive catcher and he's yet to really do much at the major league level. Last season he struggled greatly in Seattle and while he's put up solid minor league numbers, it is the PCL. He's a guy that gets love because he was a former top pick, imo. However, for Jack Wilson I wouldn't have given him up. Wilson gets paid a decent amount for a guy that won't hit. I'd rather have Juan Uribe, myself. Great move for the Bucco's, I don't get it if I'm a Mariner fan. Edit: I should update this. I see where the M's are getting Ian Snell back too. I like the deal a lot more now because I think Snell is the best player in the package (or at least the guy with the most upside). A change of scenery might do Snell wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Didn't the Pirates also draft a catcher with their early 1st rd pick? The kid from Boston College? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) Didn't the Pirates also draft a catcher with their early 1st rd pick? The kid from Boston College? Sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Clement is not a future catcher. If his bat progresses as a lot think it will, he'll provide very similar production to Adam LaRoche for much cheaper. I think the Pirates bought a bit low on Clement much like Milledge. They're adding talent for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:39 PM) I don't get why people are so high on Jeff Clement, but at the same time I've never gotten the Jack Wilson hype either. Clement isn't a good defensive catcher and he's yet to really do much at the major league level. Last season he struggled greatly in Seattle and while he's put up solid minor league numbers, it is the PCL. Agree on Clement. It's not a bad deal for Seattle, but I really like Snell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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