Why did we trade Nick Swisher?

[Balta1701]

Didn't we get rid of Swisher due to the fact he wasn't hitting here and then Oz got sick of Swisher's goof ball routine??

That and the fact that his salary took a huge jump.

[santo=dorf]

That and the fact that his salary took a huge jump.

Yeah, the Sox had NO idea what his contract looked like when they acquired him. Either that or KW's "three year board" is a crock of s***.

 

If you think a $1.8 million jump (from $3.5 million) is "huge" followed by another $1.45 million jump, and one final $2.5 million jump than Rios' must be monstorous. (His 2009 contract is more than Swisher's followed by a jump of $3.8 million, then a jump of $2.3 million to make at least $12 million for four years.)

 

What about Peavy's? $4.5 million at least to possibly not pitch for the season follow by a jump of $4 million, then another $1 million raise, and then another $1 million raise. It gets topped with a $4 million buyout or a INSANSE option.

 

There's no doubt the Sox would've received a much better package for Swisher this offseason than last offseason. NONE. The package we received was garbage and Swisher has been a beast away from Yankee stadium this year.

[BigSqwert]

Santo,

 

They botched the whole Swisher thing. Fine. Move on.

[oldsox]

Why did KW trade Nick Swisher this offseason and go into the season with DeWayne Wise and Brian Anderson in CF? When Nick hit his tying HR last night, I sat there wondering about this move. The fact that Wise came through with a single to win the game doesn't change this calculus.

 

Nick Swisher has produced 56.2 runs created this season in 371 plate appearances.

 

DeWayne Wise has produced 7.1 runs created in 112 PAs.

Brian Anderson produced 17.7 runs created 205 PAs.

 

The difference is that Swisher has 27.4 more runs created. Since he has 54 more PAs, we'll discount the difference to 25 runs.

 

If you plug that into the pythagorean expected win totals, you'll see that the Tigers are +31 runs, while we are at zero. So, had we kept Nick Swisher, we could easily be tied with the Tigers at this point -- or ahead of them if Swisher had helped us beat the Tigers even one time.

 

Meanwhile, KW ends up trading for Mark Kotsay to fill the same kind of role Swisher fills, yet he's several years older and dramatically less productive. So unproductive offensively, in fact, that I'm not sure he's much better than Brian Anderson at this point.

 

Swisher would have given us a major league player in CF from the start of the year. He could have kept that job when Scotty Pods came over because Quentin went down. And now he would still be a super-sub for Quentin, Pods, Dye, Konerko, and Thome, giving him plenty of ABs that will go instead to less productive hitters for the Sox.

 

I realize KW and Ozzie wanted to dump Swisher after last season. But it was a dumb move without getting someone to replace his role. That one position has been the weakest on the team, and has certainly cost us games, and very possibly another division title.

I think the better question is why did we trade FOR Swisher? We gave up a great prospect in Sweeney, who can play CF and hit. He's around .280 now and is bound to improve; plus a promising lefty in Gio.

[witesoxfan]

I think the better question is why did we trade FOR Swisher? We gave up a great prospect in Sweeney, who can play CF and hit. He's around .280 now and is bound to improve; plus a promising lefty in Gio.

 

because they thought he was going to be better than he was. That's pretty simple, isn't it?

 

Ryan Sweeney is also getting a hell of a lot of love around here for a .734 OPS. That's decent and all, but it's not earth shattering.

[nitetrain8601]

It doesn't matter. So many teams have so many players that hate each other and still win. Ever hear the stories about Jeter and A-Rod? Yeah, no WS since they paired up but playoffs all years but one and the Evil Swisher is on that team and they will likely lock up the best record in the AL

 

And they like Swisher. A-Rod and Jeter aren't best buddies anymore, but they don't hate each other as far as I knew. And oh yeah, if you have ridiculous talent at every position, eventually that will win out.

[Balta1701]

because they thought he was going to be better than he was. That's pretty simple, isn't it?

 

Ryan Sweeney is also getting a hell of a lot of love around here for a .734 OPS. That's decent and all, but it's not earth shattering.

If Brian Anderson hadn't completely busted, Alex Rios could figure out what a "Bat" was supposed to do, or Nick Swisher hadn't been just awful for us, then most people wouldn't be looking at that .734 OPS and swooning.