flavum Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Poreda getting roughed up for the Beavers. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...srcaaa_poraaa_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 04:39 PM) Poreda getting roughed up for the Beavers. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...srcaaa_poraaa_1 [snickers] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I saw enough of him to realize he was nothing special. Richard will make the deal for the Padres because he has the potential to be a double-digit winner for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Poreda is just a reliever. Probably an above average one, but nothing worth regretting in a deal for Jake Peavy. Peavy is going to be the one to determine if it was a good deal or not. Carter is still far away and Richard's upside doesn't equal Peavy's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Charlotte: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...94&sid=t494 Birmingham: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...47&sid=t247 Winston-Salem: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...80&sid=t580 Kannapolis: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...87&sid=t487 Bristol: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...57&sid=t557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 07:01 PM) Poreda is just a reliever. Probably an above average one, but nothing worth regretting in a deal for Jake Peavy. Peavy is going to be the one to determine if it was a good deal or not. Carter is still far away and Richard's upside doesn't equal Peavy's. Definitely agree. Richard will be good, but still is only a No. 3 starter. Peavy, meanwhile, can be an Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Huddie has 3 K's through 2 innings. Looks like another gem in the making if they can give him some offense. Viciedo not in lineup tonite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) Another thing about Hudson that I find very encouraging is that despite being a strikeout pitcher, he seems to be very efficient (pitch count wise) as well. Edited August 5, 2009 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Another thing about Hudson that I find very encouraging is that despite being a strikeout pitcher, he seems to be very efficient (pitch count wise) as well. Maggs, this seems perfect. He is a typical get ahead in the count pitcher. What more could we ask for?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Poreda is just a reliever. Probably an above average one, but nothing worth regretting in a deal for Jake Peavy. Peavy is going to be the one to determine if it was a good deal or not. Carter is still far away and Richard's upside doesn't equal Peavy's. Dan, if he does not develop at least 1 good secondary pitch he is doomed to be a lifetime reliever. No doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) Poreda is just a reliever. Probably an above average one, but nothing worth regretting in a deal for Jake Peavy. This is why i was ok with the deal, I don't think that we gave up much to get a true #1 pitcher. Carter is dominating at a low level but he's also too old and experienced to be pitching at that level, Richard is inconsistent but could be a good #3 or even a #2 if he reaches his max potential, we all know what Russell brings to the table, a big fastball and thats it. Poreda just doesn't have anything other than a great fastball. I didn't want to jinx him when he was in our organization or be overly critical of him but I've always seen him as a reliever. He really just doesn't have anything other than one dominant pitch with flashes of a decent slider. Even if he could add a changeup he still just doesn't have enough offspeed stuff to be a starter. If however we had included Hudson in the deal I would not have been very happy. He has 4 pitches right now and has the potential to be a top of the rotation type guy. He has a huge ceiling while none of the others really do. San Diego got quantity, not quality in their return haul for Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Anyone notice that BA has 4 homeruns since being sent down and subsequently traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 We may need Hudson as the #4 a few days from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) We may need Hudson as the #4 a few days from now. 6 K's thru almost 4 innings, NASTY!!! But his pitch count is a little high (51 so far). He will probably go 7 if he can keep pitching well. BHam up 2-0 as Cook left the yard. Edited August 5, 2009 by chisoxfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:51 AM) This is why i was ok with the deal, I don't think that we gave up much to get a true #1 pitcher. Carter is dominating at a low level but he's also too old and experienced to be pitching at that level, Richard is inconsistent but could be a good #3 or even a #2 if he reaches his max potential, we all know what Russell brings to the table, a big fastball and thats it. Poreda just doesn't have anything other than a great fastball. I didn't want to jinx him when he was in our organization or be overly critical of him but I've always seen him as a reliever. He really just doesn't have anything other than one dominant pitch with flashes of a decent slider. Even if he could add a changeup he still just doesn't have enough offspeed stuff to be a starter. If however we had included Hudson in the deal I would not have been very happy. He has 4 pitches right now and has the potential to be a top of the rotation type guy. He has a huge ceiling while none of the others really do. San Diego got quantity, not quality in their return haul for Peavy. No way in hell Richard becomes a #2, at absolute max he's an average #3 but it's far more likely that he ends up a passable #4/5. Don't be blinded by the good stretch he's on because his stuff is very mediocre. I definitely agree with your last statement though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 64 pitches for Hudson. If he's going Saturday in Chicago, he better be done. It will be telling if he doesn't come out for the 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 64 pitches for Hudson. If he's going Saturday in Chicago, he better be done. It will be telling if he doesn't come out for the 5th. Is there a plan to bring him up? I had not seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:14 AM) Is there a plan to bring him up? I had not seen that. Rick Hahn did hint towards him being an option at some point this season, but I haven't heard anything outside of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 08:14 PM) Is there a plan to bring him up? I had not seen that. Not necessarily a plan, but Rick Hahn mentioned him as a possible starter until Peavy is ready. If he pitches Saturday, it'll be on three days rest, so he probably wouldn't go 6-7 innings tonight. ...Just thinking--maybe they'll pitch Contreras on Saturday since he only went 66 pitches tonight, and the 5th starter will go Sunday. I'd just prefer Contreras get his walking papers. Edited August 5, 2009 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 06:11 PM) No way in hell Richard becomes a #2, at absolute max he's an average #3 but it's far more likely that he ends up a passable #4/5. Don't be blinded by the good stretch he's on because his stuff is very mediocre. I definitely agree with your last statement though. A 94 mph fastball combined with Petco? He could give some really good numbers for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 06:12 PM) 64 pitches for Hudson. If he's going Saturday in Chicago, he better be done. It will be telling if he doesn't come out for the 5th. There's no way they'd do that rather than Torres is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I am assuming that Torres or Carrasco will be going on Saturday. I was thinking Hudson on Sunday if Contreras is dropped from the rotation. I don't think they'd have Hudson make his MLB debut on 3 days rest, but what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Aug 4, 2009 -> 06:22 PM) I am assuming that Torres or Carrasco will be going on Saturday. I was thinking Hudson on Sunday if Contreras is dropped from the rotation. I don't think they'd have Hudson make his MLB debut on 3 days rest, but what do I know? Going in place of Jose, that I could believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Huddy- 5 inn, 3 hits, 1 walk, 6 ks 79 pitches. 57 strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Huddie gets out of a jam with a DP to end the 5th, BHam still up 2-0. He is struggling with pitch count tonite though. 79 thru 5. Wonder if he gets lifted now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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