southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (OldSmoky2 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) There was a report a few days ago from AP with the Jays owner saying the team needed to cut costs. "We think that we can bring costs reasonably under control and more in line with revenues," Blue Jays CEO Nadir Mohamed said. So it's possible they decide to just let Rios go right now. I would say probable, not possible. This is the break they have been hoping for so that they can keep Halladay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 When will this mystery be resolved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) When will this mystery be resolved? 48 hours from the point that Rios was placed on waivers. I don't the exact procedure, but I am sure it is at a standardized time each day (maybe 3 pm CST, because that is the deadline for trades?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Boston Globe reporting the Red Sox did NOT put a claim in for Rios and the SF Chronicle says its probably not the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) When will this mystery be resolved? is there a deadline after a player is claimed that they must come to terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:32 PM) 48 hours from the point that Rios was placed on waivers. I don't the exact procedure, but I am sure it is at a standardized time each day (maybe 3 pm CST, because that is the deadline for trades?). I thought I read the term "2 business days." So maybe not until next Tuesday afternoon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) I thought I read the term "2 business days." So maybe not until next Tuesday afternoon? It could be. I really am not sure of the exact details. I just always remember two days, so it could very well be two business days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Detroit maybe with Maggs sucking so bad?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Some people think we are putting a block in so detroit doesnt claim him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) I thought I read the term "2 business days." So maybe not until next Tuesday afternoon? Actually, just read a report that said the Blue Jays would have until Tuesday to work out a trade, let him go or take off the waiver wire. Assuming he was claimed, why wouldn't the Blue Jays talk to the White Sox (or whatever team it is) about giving up a prospect, and, if talks are stalled, just let him go at that point. Toronto still wins from their perspective, getting out from under than big contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Rios just went yard....he's in a happy place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (CryptviLL @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:41 PM) Some people think we are putting a block in so detroit doesnt claim him I can't see the Tigers having the money to claim him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:41 PM) Actually, just read a report that said the Blue Jays would have until Tuesday to work out a trade, let him go or take off the waiver wire. Assuming he was claimed, why wouldn't the Blue Jays talk to the White Sox (or whatever team it is) about giving up a prospect, and, if talks are stalled, just let him go at that point. Toronto still wins from their perspective, getting out from under than big contract. Interesting. It must be business days then. So that means we get two extra days to speculate and agonize about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 11:23 PM) Rios would fit in nicely. For the rest of this season Ozzie could work Rios in by DHing Quentin on some days and have Pods LF, Rios CF, and Dye RF. Other days he can rest Pods and have an OF of Quentin, Rios and Dye. Still other days he can sit Dye or DH him and have Q in LF, Pods in CF and Rios in RF. Still other days Rios can sit on the bench in place of Wise and come in as a defensive replacement when Buerhle has another perfect game going. I agree. I made a thread that it made sense for the sox to trade for an OFer by the deadline. My main reasons were to rest Thome, Dye, Pk, Pods, and Quentin. Kotsay made some sense and does fit the profile. But I meant a real OFer. Rios would be nice for the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Ye thats the key, Rios defense and speed would be exactly what the wsox need. Not to mention his ability to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 04:49 PM) Interesting. It must be business days then. So that means we get two extra days to speculate and agonize about it Yes, 2 business days. You should take me off ignore: I posted the schedule like 3 pages ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but can the sox basically acquire Rios for no prospects, just the $60 mill, remaining on his contract, if Toronto wants to shed payroll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (beck72 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:54 PM) Correct me if I'm wrong, but can the sox basically acquire Rios for no prospects, just the $60 mill, remaining on his contract, if Toronto wants to shed payroll? Yes, if they were the team that actually won the claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) So if I have this correct we should hear something by Monday or Tuesday. This is going to be a LONG wait... Edited August 7, 2009 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'd assume that they would want something for him. Perhaps Kotsay and a few prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) So if I have this correct we should hear something by Monday or Tuesday. My guess is we'll have a pretty good idea who claimed him by the end of the night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:56 PM) My guess is we'll have a pretty good idea who claimed him by the end of the night... I sure hope so...I hate having to wait lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 11:54 PM) Yes, if they were the team that actually won the claim. From the sounds of it, on ESPN.com, only one team made a claim on him. That team could be "stuck" with Rios, and his entire contract. No deal has to be worked out. Toronto could just walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2009 -> 06:48 PM) I can't see the Tigers having the money to claim him. Maggs might be coming off the books if they can limit his PA. Sheff is also off the books after this year. Washburn, Polanco, Lyon come off too. However, Maggs is no guarantee and they still have to pay Dontrelle, Robertson, and Bonderman next year. Guillen is on the books until 2011. The payroll is still way up there, but their owner really wants to win and has authorized some pretty big expenditures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 To the team who won the claim, is there anything else (other teams) blocking them from getting Rios? Id assume theyd have to pass players through waivers to make a trade, so teams could block that. But also i assume that if the jays would not accept any players and instead just let him and his contract go to the other team, then there is nothing any other team can do about it sorry for my ignorance / if it has been posted already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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