JPN366 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I wanted to make sure everybody saw this, I don't know from which team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) Why would any other team than the Blue Jays be watching him? They're trying to get the most out of the Rios deal by looking at our crappy mid-level prospects. Edited August 10, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 09:24 PM) Why would any other team than the Blue Jays be watching him? They're trying to get the most out of the Rios deal by looking at our crappy mid-level prospects. Because I can't confirm from which team, so that's why I said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yeah, I know. I was just trying to narrow down the choices, which should come out to the Blue Jays because it would make sense that they're looking at mid-level prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Certainly wouldn't have any issue at giving up McCullough at all in a deal for Rios, nor would Sox fans I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) It's interesting how quickly we're shedding 1st rounds picks. McCulloch has finally started pitched well, and it appears to be at a really opportune moment for both McCulloch and the White Sox organization. Edited August 10, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I'm waiting for the punch line: Scouts watching McCulloch... For laughs? Because they lost a bet? Instead of working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 09:26 PM) Because I can't confirm from which team, so that's why I said that. Can you confirm to me via PM? I promise I won't tell anyone... And even if it isn't the Jays I just hope he gets traded so the book can be finally closed on all those bad drafts and poor development projects. McCulloch + Fields to the Jays would be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 05:30 AM) Can you confirm to me via PM? I promise I won't tell anyone... And even if it isn't the Jays I just hope he gets traded so the book can be finally closed on all those bad drafts and poor development projects. McCulloch + Fields to the Jays would be perfect. I think he means he can't confirm because he isn't certain of what team they scout for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 11:21 PM) I'm waiting for the punch line: Scouts watching McCulloch... For laughs? Because they lost a bet? Instead of working? The punchline is in the title. I don't think I've even so much as glanced at a McCulloch box score for years other than by accident. He's one of those guys you just pass over when seeing how the prospects are doing... and to think someone actually came to watch him pitch?? This is very exciting though. In the back of my mind I had been thinking about McCulloch in a Rios deal simply because the Jays could then title their headline "Rios Nets First Round Pick(s)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 11:32 PM) I think he means he can't confirm because he isn't certain of what team they scout for. Ahh, that makes sense then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 10:10 PM) For every wavier claim that gets reported by the media, 30 don't. I'd say that would be more accurate. Half our roster has probably already been claimed on waivers. Especially Wise. I remember in 2005 there was a story that had people (think on WSI?) freaking out because Buehrle had been claimed by someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 11:32 PM) I think he means he can't confirm because he isn't certain of what team they scout for. Yeah, that's what I meant. I just saw scouts watching McCulloch and taking notes. Aside from the charting and gun readings done by the other starting pitchers in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 McCulloch would make sense in a deal for Rios-a prospect in the high minors, not on the 40 man roster. You can never have enough young starting pitchers--those SP's in the minors [even if they aren't all that good] could be bullpen options in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 12:39 AM) I'd say that would be more accurate. Half our roster has probably already been claimed on waivers. Especially Wise. I remember in 2005 there was a story that had people (think on WSI?) freaking out because Buehrle had been claimed by someone. I remember in 2004 Boston freaked out because Manny was placed on waivers. In any event, I hope McCulloch is traded so I can see the inevitable "We are very excited and envision him in the starting rotation next season" non-sense from whoever picks him up. Then I will laugh and laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) I remember in 2004 Boston freaked out because Manny was placed on waivers. In any event, I hope McCulloch is traded so I can see the inevitable "We are very excited and envision him in the starting rotation next season" non-sense from whoever picks him up. Then I will laugh and laugh. We are excited and envision him throwing batting practice to our batters before the game next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:29 AM) I remember in 2004 Boston freaked out because Manny was placed on waivers. In any event, I hope McCulloch is traded so I can see the inevitable "We are very excited and envision him in the starting rotation next season" non-sense from whoever picks him up. Then I will laugh and laugh. The difference with Manroid is that he was placed on irrevocable waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 10:30 PM) Can you confirm to me via PM? I promise I won't tell anyone... And even if it isn't the Jays I just hope he gets traded so the book can be finally closed on all those bad drafts and poor development projects. McCulloch + Fields to the Jays would be perfect. Yes it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 09:04 AM) Yes it would. Except Fields would have to clear waivers to be part of a deal, and there's no reason to think he'd even make it to Toronto. The Padres or Orioles or Royals or someone like that would be happy to grab him for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 McCulloch might be a good guy for the Jays in the sense that they could claim he's a former 1st rounder who just needs a change of scenery. Basically to tell fans, not only did we dump his contract but we got something that might be decent too (even though we all know he's crap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 06:29 AM) I remember in 2004 Boston freaked out because Manny was placed on waivers. In any event, I hope McCulloch is traded so I can see the inevitable "We are very excited and envision him in the starting rotation next season" non-sense from whoever picks him up. Then I will laugh and laugh. Boston placed Manny on waivers hoping someone would have just taken his entire contract off of there hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 10:10 AM) Except Fields would have to clear waivers to be part of a deal, and there's no reason to think he'd even make it to Toronto. The Padres or Orioles or Royals or someone like that would be happy to grab him for nothing. Good point. Then someone else besides Josh instead. I want the Rios deal done because I look at where we'll be this offseason (still needing a CF and a significant upgrade to the OF defense) and I think Rios is the best alternative. Crawford is a pipedream, and we may be outbid on Figgins, or his acquisition may otherwise require a compromise such as a contract longer than his projected usefulness. Who knows that Rios won't be attractive to a team like the Yankees or Mets this offseason? - teams that won't be bothered so much by his contract. Now is a unique opportunity for acquiring CF stability, without losing major prospects or high draft picks. Get it done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) Now is a unique opportunity for acquiring CF stability, without losing major prospects or high draft picks. Get it done! If KW is able to do that he'll do it. It's going to be largely up to Riccardi and the Blue Jays Ownership to decide how desperate they are to shed salary though. If they actually want a substantial return, then KW can and should just sit on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) The difference with Manroid is that he was placed on irrevocable waivers. So I forgot a key fact. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 LOLlies Hey JPN, I think I found out who that scout was and what team he was working on behalf of: One executive believes the Jays should trade Alex Rios for a bag of balls, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com. Sounds like they've found what they're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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