Kyyle23 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 01:37 PM) Ya I saw Robbie Cano cleared waivers. God I'd love to have claimed him. The Yankees would have pulled him back no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wagner probably hit waivers well before the story got out, so maybe be clears today or tomorrow. If he does, which I image he will, then it's time to start the bidding. We're going to have to give up something of value to get him, but probably not much and certainly nothing all that significant. I have to imagine Kenny will throw his hat in the ring ASAP if he gets through. I'd like to know how it was that Micah Owings cleared waivers in the Dunn deal last year when he was with the DBacks, because he was a guy on the 40-man roster. Maybe he was DLed? Whatever that loophole is, maybe we could exploit it with Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) He'll clear. He's owed $2.7 million the rest of this year and a $1 million buyout. I don't think many teams want to pony up almost $4 million for a closer for 45 games. Especially one that has not pitched in the big leagues for a year. Edited August 21, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) He'll clear. He's owed $2.7 million the rest of this year and a $1 million buyout. I don't think many teams want to pony up almost $4 million for a closer for 45 games. Especially one that has not pitched in the big leagues for a year. I agree and would be surprised to see him claimed. Edit: And for those who say "it's only money, no big deal," well, we could have signed at least 3 of our big 4 unsigned prospects with that much money. And had we signed 3 of those guys, no one would have said "trade all three of those guys for Wagner!" So I really doubt anyone is taking on that kind of salary. If the guy had a reasonable option for 2010 then he might get claimed, but he doesn't, so he probably won't. Edited August 21, 2009 by Kenny Hates Prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wagner claimed off waivers....per Rosenthal http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9966794...med-off-waivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) Wagner claimed off waivers....per Rosenthal http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9966794...med-off-waivers I doubt he got out of the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) I doubt he got out of the NL. Same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Dont you go through waivers opposite league first? I thought I read that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 03:03 PM) Dont you go through waivers opposite league first? I thought I read that read the story: National League teams had priority for Wagner, an NL player, followed by AL clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 03:09 PM) read the story: National League teams had priority for Wagner, an NL player, followed by AL clubs. Its easier to make you type it than to click the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxlove Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Combine that with one of the best rotations in baseball (Peavy, Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, and Jose/Freddy) and an offense that now has a pretty good combination of speed and power and Sox fans shouldn't just expect a post-season run, they should expect a World Series Championship. yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 03:14 PM) Its easier to make you type it than to click the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 supposedly its the Red Sox. Didn't we hear that initially about Rios too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 04:53 PM) supposedly its the Red Sox. Didn't we hear that initially about Rios too? OOooo snap!... crackle.. and pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Billy Wagner-R-Mets Aug. 21 - 5:36 pm et According to the Boston Globe, the Red Sox may have been the club that claimed Mets reliever Billy Wagner on Friday afternoon. The Globe heard from a major league source that the Red Sox "covet" B-Wags, and WFTL 640 out of Florida is reporting it was Boston that put the claim in. If the reports are true, a deal should get done quickly. The hard-throwing left-hander is owed about $2.5 million the rest of the way. Source: Boston Globe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 02:17 PM) Wagner claimed off waivers....per Rosenthal http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9966794...med-off-waivers I'm shocked. I'll be even more shocked if the Mets keep him. I just hope if Wagner has anything to offer that it wasn't Detroit who claimed him. Illich seems like he doesn't care about losing money at this point. If it is Boston, I suppose it makes sense. They are getting desperate and I believe Gammons said they were holding back payroll to acquire guys during the season when teams would be giving them away. Edited August 21, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 04:55 PM) I'm shocked. I'll be even more shocked if the Mets keep him. I just hope if Wagner has anything to offer that it wasn't Detroit who claimed him. Illich seems like he doesn't care about losing money at this point. If it is Boston, I suppose it makes sense. They are getting desperate and I believe Gammons said they were holding back payroll to acquire guys during the season when teams would be giving them away. I dont think the Sox would let him get to Detroit. Red or White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Claimed by the Red Sawks, From MLBTradeRumors http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/08/bill...on-waivers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 02:55 PM) I'm shocked. I'll be even more shocked if the Mets keep him. I just hope if Wagner has anything to offer that it wasn't Detroit who claimed him. Illich seems like he doesn't care about losing money at this point. If it is Boston, I suppose it makes sense. They are getting desperate and I believe Gammons said they were holding back payroll to acquire guys during the season when teams would be giving them away. I'm more shocked that he (reportedly) wasn't claimed by an NL team. Lots of contenders are willing to over-pay a little for an edge at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Well if Boston claimed him it will be the greatest move made in this waiver wire..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) I'm more shocked that he (reportedly) wasn't claimed by an NL team. Lots of contenders are willing to over-pay a little for an edge at this point. Not really. He made it though 26 of 29 eligible teams without getting claimed. The #27 team claimed him and there's no indication the Yankees or Angels would have claimed him had the Red Sox not done so. The Red Sox are probably panicking with Texas right on their asses in the wild card race and TB not far behind. The Yankees look like they won't be caught this year. The Red Sox would be dumb to offer anything because Wagner is already theirs. Seems like the Mets waited for Wagner's rehab assignment to finish in hopes someone would make a claim and the Mets would get salary savings instead of a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Well, for the Red Sox, I'm kind of puzzled. One of their strengths I thought was actually their bullpen, but their starting pitching was falling apart. Hmm, would it be possible for Boston to pick him up, put him right back on waives, our Sox claim him, and we work out a trade for Freddy or Jose(I don't think they'll take Bart back) for Wagner? Nevermind, I realized it's a pipedream and we should've just claimed him outright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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