5th Starter Scenarios

[greg775]

there is really no way Wise should come to the plate when the at bat is crucial to the outcome of the game.

 

Except when we play the first place Yankees and he can line a hit to win the game.

 

 

and somebody said also:

Why, when everyone else on the site is in agreement on something, is there always one person who refuses to see things that are incredibly obvious?

 

This is no shot at Reddy, but there's always that one guy who goes against the entire site for some reason that nobody understands.

 

Uh, that's life. People see the facts and make up their own minds. It's what makes life interesting. Why should everybody read a thread and then everybody agree on the same stance??

Edited August 15, 2009 by greg775

[BigSqwert]

Why, when everyone else on the site is in agreement on something, is there always one person who refuses to see things that are incredibly obvious?

 

This is no shot at Reddy, but there's always that one guy who goes against the entire site for some reason that nobody understands.

In this particluar scenario it's mind boggling.

[Milkman delivers]

Except when we play the first place Yankees and he can line a hit to win the game.

 

and somebody said also:

Why, when everyone else on the site is in agreement on something, is there always one person who refuses to see things that are incredibly obvious?

 

This is no shot at Reddy, but there's always that one guy who goes against the entire site for some reason that nobody understands.

 

Uh, that's life. People see the facts and make up their own minds. It's what makes life interesting. Why should everybody read a thread and then everybody agree on the same stance??

 

Ugh, so one hit in a career of absolute mediocrity (actually mediocre is giving Wise's career WAY too much credit) makes him a good pinch hitter?

 

The sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while.

 

A broken clock is right twice a day.

 

Etc.

[Milkman delivers]

Don't mess with Hawk's pubes.

 

The thought alone is terrifying.

[greg775]

I'm just trying to make a point. The guy says he should NEVER be up late in a game.

He beat the f***ing Yankees. So he should be up late in a game. If he's not up late in that game we may lose it and all losses now are crucial (see the Pods pick off game).

His argument seems lame to me when he's already beaten somebody good with a late hit.

Edited August 15, 2009 by greg775

[son of a rude]

I'm just trying to make a point. The guy says he should NEVER be up late in a game.

He beat the f***ing Yankees. So he should be up late in a game. If he's not up late in that game we may lose it and all losses now are crucial (see the Pods pick off game).

His argument seems lame to me when he's already beaten somebody good with a late hit.

No, he should NEVER be up late in the game. He is the worst hitter on the team.

 

I'm sorry if I offended your homerism.

Edited August 15, 2009 by son of a rude

[beck72]

Success in trhe minors doesn't necessarily mean success at the big league level, cotts. In Cotts defense, we took him out of birmingham and he never developed a third or fourth pitch. Cotts had fits of brilliance in 05. Hudson might be the real thing. Bring him up Jose doesn't look good at all. However; Jose is totally unpredictable, remember when we thought he was through before and then reeled out what was it 10 in a row. I think that was with the help of El Duque. THe bronze titan still has the talent, I think we should call Elduque up to be an assistant pitching coach just to help with our once great Contreras. Because as it goes presently Jose is way too inconsistent.

I know that. But seeing how the Sox are looking for a 5th SP, and the brass is looking at Hudson as a possibility, they might soon try him. Whether he's successful or not is a different question.

 

The sox have tried Torres, their best option from AAA. Hudson and Freddy are the next best options.

[Milkman delivers]

I'm just trying to make a point. The guy says he should NEVER be up late in a game.

He beat the f***ing Yankees. So he should be up late in a game. If he's not up late in that game we may lose it and all losses now are crucial (see the Pods pick off game).

His argument seems lame to me when he's already beaten somebody good with a late hit.

 

Jesus titty-f***ing Christ, you really have no concept of logic whatsoever.

[greg775]

How's this for logic?

He got the game winning hit LATE against the Yankees.

The guy says he should never be up late in a game, period.

That hit was recent.

So LOGIC SAYS in my logic textbook that yes indeed Wise can and should be up late in games.

How can my logic fail in this one?

Are you serious?

If I was wrong here I'd admit it. I am going by LOGIC in my argument.

He got a winning hit late in a game, thus he can bat late in games. The poster said he NEVER SHOULD bat late in a game.

 

[son of a rude]

How's this for logic?

He got the game winning hit LATE against the Yankees.

The guy says he should never be up late in a game, period.

That hit was recent.

So LOGIC SAYS in my logic textbook that yes indeed Wise can and should be up late in games.

How can my logic fail in this one?

Are you serious?

If I was wrong here I'd admit it. I am going by LOGIC in my argument.

He got a winning hit late in a game, thus he can bat late in games. The poster said he NEVER SHOULD bat late in a game.

Okay Ozzie.

[southsider2k5]

Okay Ozzie.

 

I think it is funny that you have Steven Smith in your avy, and are calling people names.

[son of a rude]

I think it is funny that you have Steven Smith in your avy, and are calling people names.

Quite frankly, Stephen A. should have never been fired from ESPN.

Edited August 15, 2009 by son of a rude

[Milkman delivers]

I can't even stand it anymore. I am going to put someone on ignore on Soxtalk for the first time ever.

[son of a rude]

I can't even stand it anymore. I am going to put someone on ignore on Soxtalk for the first time ever.

[southsider2k5]

I can't even stand it anymore. I am going to put someone on ignore on Soxtalk for the first time ever.

 

I can't blame you at all.

[Quin]

I wondered where Stephen A. Smith went...really liked that guy.

 

As for Wise, I meant he's losing the 25 Man Roster Spot. He'll stay in September, but come playoffs, Peavy gets that spot.

 

Unless Wise tells Ozzie he can pitch and play 3rd, in which case Beckham and Peavy will be DFA'd.

[Tel Aviv]

So, after I saw the Trib. article on Hudson possibly seeing the South Side soon, I'm confused.

 

When Peavy comes up, that leaves one rotation spot open. And rid us of DeWayne Wise.

 

So what happens?

 

If Freddy pitches well, I'd assume he'd take the fifth starter spot, and Contreras would get Randy Williams' bullpen spot.

 

But what if Hudson also came up for some reason, would he contend for that fifth spot or would he possibly (hopefully) take Pena's spot?

 

Dan Hudson. And it's not even close.

[Felix]

How's this for logic?

He got the game winning hit LATE against the Yankees.

The guy says he should never be up late in a game, period.

That hit was recent.

So LOGIC SAYS in my logic textbook that yes indeed Wise can and should be up late in games.

How can my logic fail in this one?

Are you serious?

If I was wrong here I'd admit it. I am going by LOGIC in my argument.

He got a winning hit late in a game, thus he can bat late in games. The poster said he NEVER SHOULD bat late in a game.

Are you sure that you know what logic is?

[knightni]

Are you sure that you know what logic is?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[greg775]

I guess you still want to discuss this.

Logic 101

 

Your comment: Wise should absolutely NEVER bat late in a game.

My comment: Wise got a walk off hit against the Yankees, obviously late in a game.

Conclusion: Wise can effectively bat late in a game. His hit proved that.

 

If that's not logic what would you call it? I'm not flaming, just curious.

I think in a debate, I might win.

 

I never said he should be allowed to bat late every time. Obviously we have better candidates to deliver a hit, on paper at least.

Edited August 17, 2009 by greg775

[Quin]

Well, logic would also say that DeWayne wise blew it in the 13 inning game against the Dodgers (I was there...I wanted to harm both him and Fields), so maybe he gets hits in late games relative to his average?

[son of a rude]

I guess you still want to discuss this.

Logic 101

 

Your comment: Wise should absolutely NEVER bat late in a game.

My comment: Wise got a walk off hit against the Yankees, obviously late in a game.

Conclusion: Wise can effectively bat late in a game. His hit proved that.

 

If that's not logic what would you call it? I'm not flaming, just curious.

I think in a debate, I might win.

 

I never said he should be allowed to bat late every time. Obviously we have better candidates to deliver a hit, on paper at least.

 

How's this for logic?

He got the game winning hit LATE against the Yankees.

The guy says he should never be up late in a game, period.

That hit was recent.

So LOGIC SAYS in my logic textbook that yes indeed Wise can and should be up late in games.

How can my logic fail in this one?

Are you serious?

If I was wrong here I'd admit it. I am going by LOGIC in my argument.

He got a winning hit late in a game, thus he can bat late in games. The poster said he NEVER SHOULD bat late in a game.

 

 

[lostfan]

I guess you still want to discuss this.

Logic 101

 

Your comment: Wise should absolutely NEVER bat late in a game.

My comment: Wise got a walk off hit against the Yankees, obviously late in a game.

Conclusion: Wise can effectively bat late in a game. His hit proved that.

 

If that's not logic what would you call it? I'm not flaming, just curious.

I think in a debate, I might win.

 

I never said he should be allowed to bat late every time. Obviously we have better candidates to deliver a hit, on paper at least.

It's logic, it's just not particularly good logic. If you're playing odds you don't want to go with the WORST odds. What happens after the fact is hindsight and is irrelevant, but Joe Morgan says this kind of stuff all the time (it doesn't matter what the strategy was, it worked, therefore it was the right strategy) and it makes me bang my head against the wall.

[Rowand44]

How's this for logic?

He got the game winning hit LATE against the Yankees.

The guy says he should never be up late in a game, period.

That hit was recent.

So LOGIC SAYS in my logic textbook that yes indeed Wise can and should be up late in games.

How can my logic fail in this one?

Are you serious?

If I was wrong here I'd admit it. I am going by LOGIC in my argument.

He got a winning hit late in a game, thus he can bat late in games. The poster said he NEVER SHOULD bat late in a game.

No, it's terrible logic. Everyone can deliver a hit now and then. The fact is, that hit against the Yankees is his only hit in close and late situations this season(I'm not exaggerating, that's literally his only one). He's a terrible baseball player and he's just as bad in the late innings.

[BigSqwert]

I can't even stand it anymore. I am going to put someone on ignore on Soxtalk for the first time ever.

Oh come on now. Greg is a very entertaining member of Soxtalk.