NorthSideSox72 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 03:58 PM) Good. Can't hurt. Sure it could. May still be a good idea, but, every time we pour more money in, we increase the size of the inflation snap-back later. Although "later" keeps being pushed out because the growth is so slow at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 05:30 PM) Sure it could. May still be a good idea, but, every time we pour more money in, we increase the size of the inflation snap-back later. Although "later" keeps being pushed out because the growth is so slow at this point. Assuming the Fed is willing to allow an inflation snap-back to happen (it isn't) or that the inflation snap-back is so fast that the Fed can't react (seemingly without historic precedent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 05:08 PM) Assuming the Fed is willing to allow an inflation snap-back to happen (it isn't) or that the inflation snap-back is so fast that the Fed can't react (seemingly without historic precedent). So to is there balance sheet and the amount of easing they have undertaken. The Fed is almost the entire MBS mkt. They purchase 77 of the 80-90 billion of MBS every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 This has come up before, but, a cool graph from a cool company: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) This has come up before, but, a cool graph from a cool company: Not surprising - even with some downside value risk, it is far cheaper and smarter to buy then rent right now (if you plan to stay for at least a few years). The problem is tight credit, or not having downpayment, for most people. As the markets continue to recover, and employment improves (hopefully), the down payment barrier will be removed for more people. So it really then becomes about the credit. Also... when there's blood on the streets, buy property. In Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Revised Labor Department figures find an extra 386,000 jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 28, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Revised Labor Department figures find an extra 386,000 jobs SHOCKING right before an election with an incumbent Democrat president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 That must be it! Quick, get Unskewed polls on the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Unemployment drops unexpectedly to 7.8% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Unemployment drops unexpectedly to 7.8% Romney won the debate, easy correlation right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jake Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:24 AM) Romney won the debate, easy correlation right there. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Unemployment drops unexpectedly to 7.8% And for once it wasn't because of a fall in workforce participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Progress, folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) And for once it wasn't because of a fall in workforce participation. It's still a too-slow improvement, but at least it is improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) And for once it wasn't because of a fall in workforce participation. This is about the most positive jobs report to come out in the past year, maybe more. Not only did the UE rate actually go down due to people finding work... they also revised up the jobs growth in August and July by 86k, and beat expectations on job creation rate. Trend is still not strong enough to be that big rally we've all been waiting for, but this is a real improvement. Now... whomever gets elected President, go out there and remove the uncertainties - fiscal cliff, regulations, etc. - then we can get to the business of a strong recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It's all a conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 07:54 AM) First the polls and now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) Now... whomever gets elected President, go out there and remove the uncertainties - fiscal cliff, regulations, etc. - then we can get to the business of a strong recovery. Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 10:53 AM) Congress. Need both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 10:53 AM) Congress. Also, when it comes to regs, much of this is NOT Congress - the guidelines already passed in legislation, the solidifying of rules and regs has been sitting in various agencies for year. That is executive, and it is on the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 28, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Revised Labor Department figures find an extra 386,000 jobs QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 30, 2012 -> 07:34 PM) SHOCKING right before an election with an incumbent Democrat president. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Unemployment drops unexpectedly to 7.8% QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 09:40 AM) It's all a conspiracy “The numbers are put together by trained professionals and in a process that keeps politicians from interfering,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum and a chief economic adviser to former President George W. Bush. “Any sort of suggestion to the contrary is wrong.” Former Bush administration spokesman Tony Fratto took to Twitter to say: “Stop with the dumb conspiracy theories. Good grief.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/...l#ixzz28SGxCL10 Edited October 5, 2012 by Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 what's the relevance of witesoxfan's quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 So pretty much all of the job additions for July and August were governmental jobs. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/us-...b71a_story.html A separate government survey of companies and government agencies showed they added 114,000 jobs in September. And it turns out that 86,000 more jobs were added in July and August than the government had initially estimated. It also shows that federal, state and local governments added 10,000 jobs in September and a revised 63,000 jobs combined in July and August. The government’s initial estimates had shown government job losses for July and August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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