Marty34 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 1. Podsednik LF 2. Getz 2B 3. Beckham SS 4. Quentin RF 5. 6. Rios CF 7. 8. AJ C 9 Nix 3B Package Ramirez with Konerko as incentive to take all of Paulie's $12M next year which would bring the payroll down to about $57M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Yeah not going to happen. Sox are committed to Alexei. And nobody is taking Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Yeah not going to happen. Sox are committed to Alexei. And nobody is taking Paul. While I don't disagree that moving Konerko would be hard, I don't get the sense that they are committed to Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I don't think Pods will be back next year. Just a gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) While I don't disagree that moving Konerko would be hard, I don't get the sense that they are committed to Ramirez. I think they're frustrated with Alexei on D, but I don't think they're foolish enough to underestimate what they have. He's a middle infielder, SS or 2b at worst, who can hit .300 and give 15-20 home runs and an .750+ OPS each year who's under our control for at least 4 more years with good speed. That's a ridiculously valuable piece in a trade. You're moving him you ought to get back an ace starting pitcher or a top of the league OF bat or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of a rude Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 1. Getz 2b 2. Beckham 3b 3. Quentin RF/LF 4. Thome DH 5. Rios CF 6. Konerko 1b 7. AJ C 8. Alexei SS 9. Randy Winn RF/LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 04:38 PM) I think they're frustrated with Alexei on D, but I don't think they're foolish enough to underestimate what they have. He's a middle infielder, SS or 2b at worst, who can hit .300 and give 15-20 home runs and an .750+ OPS each year who's under our control for at least 4 more years with good speed. That's a ridiculously valuable piece in a trade. You're moving him you ought to get back an ace starting pitcher or a top of the league OF bat or something like that. and they have a SS who is playing 3B that can put up an .850 OPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) and they have a SS who is playing 3B that can put up an .850 OPS But he's also been surprisingly good at 3b, and we don't have another option at 3b without spending money. If you can trade Alexei for a king's ransom, say a top of the rotation type starter (Buchholz?) then either spend the money on Figgins or go with some mix of Fields and whatever else we can dredge up...maybe you consider it, but only if you think you're better with a hole at 3b and the guy you're getting back for Trading Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 03:59 PM) and they have a SS who is playing 3B that can put up an .850 OPS I've never been sold that Beckham would be a good SS at this level. Thank Josh Fields ineptness for Beckham playing 3B. Where Gordo ends up on the infield will depend on Kenny's moves...but I don't want to see him yanked around or thrown at SS for lack of a better option. He's done fine at 3rd so either just leave him there or put him back at 2B. Either way...but I really don't feel SS is where he's best suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Really don't like any of the 2 hitter options here, but... 3B Beckham CF Rios RF Quentin DH Thome LF Bay/Holliday 1B Konerko C Pierzynski SS Ramirez 2B Nix Edited August 30, 2009 by MattZakrowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) The defense needs to be better next year. I like Alexei, but I don't like him at shortstop. I preferred him at second base, but second base is already crowded. There are so many infield questions going into next year. Does Ramirez stay at shortstop? Does Beckham stay at third, or does he go to second or short? If Ramirez and Beckham are the middle infielders who plays third base? What becomes of Getz and Nix (or Lillibridge, just to add another name to the list even though it should be fairly obvious what becomes of him)? Edited August 30, 2009 by WilliamTell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco72 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 06:16 PM) Really don't like an of the 2 hitter options here, but... 3B Beckham CF Rios RF Quentin DH Thome LF Bay/Holliday 1B Konerko C Pierzynski SS Ramirez 2B Nix With the commitments already made this season (via trade) for Peavy and Rios, I think we can forget about the Sox signing a very expensive FA player. I could see the Sox pursuing an older OFer that would be cheaper or a player (e.g., Figgins) that could effectively lead off for the Sox. However, I'm not sure what Figgins would cost compared to Bay or Holliday this offseason, but I'd bet on him being cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Bay/Holliday won't be happening most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 04:35 PM) I don't think Pods will be back next year. Just a gut feeling. I hope you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 03:20 PM) Bay/Holliday won't be happening most likely. Yeah, Boston is likely going to overpay to keep Bay (Why shouldn't they?) and Holliday is going to be a highest bidder kind of guy, but I don't think moving him back to the AL is intelligent at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 05:21 PM) Yeah, Boston is likely going to overpay to keep Bay (Why shouldn't they?) and Holliday is going to be a highest bidder kind of guy, but I don't think moving him back to the AL is intelligent at all. I couldn't see Holliday wanting to come back to the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) For the 600th time... Holliday = Bora$. Not happening. Edited August 30, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Anybody think the Rays will decline Crawford's $10M option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 06:29 PM) Anybody think the Rays will decline Crawford's $10M option? I don't. He's worth $10 mil easy. If anything, they'll try and extend him at a below market value price after enacting the option. Then, if they fail, they can trade him and say it was Crawford's fault that he wouldn't re-sign. (Good P.R.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 03:29 PM) Anybody think the Rays will decline Crawford's $10M option? Not after they just cleared salary (Kazmir). You want him, you need to offer something significantly better than the 2 draft picks and full season of performance that they'd get from Crawford by keeping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Anybody think the Rays will decline Crawford's $10M option? Why would they? He's having a great year and if they want to get rid of him they'll pick up the option and trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 10:32 PM) While I don't disagree that moving Konerko would be hard, I don't get the sense that they are committed to Ramirez. PK is not the problem with the team and I disagree with your feeling on the issue of Ramirez. Ozzie Guillen said many times that Getz-Ramirez and Beckham are the future infield of this team. I hope experience makes them better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco72 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 07:12 PM) PK is not the problem with the team and I disagree with your feeling on the issue of Ramirez. Ozzie Guillen said many times that Getz-Ramirez and Beckham are the future infield of this team. I hope experience makes them better I agree on PK, especially since there are no viable in-house options to replace him. As much as I like Alexei, with his salary and production, he'd be an excellent trading chip to get a really, really high impact player. Considering that Getz and Nix have both shown they can play at the major league level, there are options in the middle infield for the Sox, but neither Getz nor Nix would have much value on the trade market (compared to their value to the Sox). It would have to be the right deal, but I think KW has to consider dealing Alexei in a blockbuster-type situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochisox Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 1. Figgins 3B 2. Rios CF 3. Beckham SS 4. Thome DH 5. Quentin RF 6. Konerko 1B 7. A. Ramirez 2B 8. Pierzynski C 9. Pods/Crisp LF platoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 07:57 PM) 1. Figgins 3B 2. Rios CF 3. Beckham SS 4. Thome DH 5. Quentin RF 6. Konerko 1B 7. A. Ramirez 2B 8. Pierzynski C 9. Pods/Crisp LF platoon i think that's the most realistic i've seen but i think it could easily be: LF-Figgins 2B-Getz 3B-Beckham DH-Thome RF-Quentin 1B-PK CF-Rios C-AJ SS-Alexei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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