oldsox Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Another strong game for Richard. Russell in relief. I think the Padres like the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 good job with this thread mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) Another strong game for Richard. Russell in relief. I think the Padres like the trade. He has an ERA of 4.50 and a WHIP of over 1.6 with the Padres. I'm not rooting for the guy to fail. In fact, I hope he does great, but he hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire over there. But why must we always create threads about people we trade away or constantly bring them up elsewhere every time after they have a good game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Adam Russell is 1-0 with 3 holds in 5 games with a 2.70 ERA and a WHIP of 2.40, batters hitting .333 against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 12:56 PM) He has an ERA of 4.50 and a WHIP of over 1.6 with the Padres. I'm not rooting for the guy to fail. In fact, I hope he does great, but he hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire over there. But why must we always create threads about people we trade away or constantly bring them up elsewhere every time after they have a good game? I think we should just have a former-player thread, for all this stuff. Seems silly to start new threads about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 12:41 PM) Another strong game for Richard. Russell in relief. I think the Padres like the trade. Hope they do because they got raped. At least maybe they can find something positive to hold on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Richard has a nice shot of being a solid #4. Russell is garbage, and Poreda will end up in the bullpen. I still like the trade from our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 LOL, so let's look at some splits since he got traded. In Petco: 4 GS 3 Wins 24 IP 22 K 12 BB 1.88 ERA 1.17 WHIP .190 BAA Outside Of Petco: 3 GS 12 IP 13 ER 6 K 10 BB 21 Hits Allowed That's right - he's allowed 31 hits & walks in 12 IP away from Petco. Do the math - that's a WHIP ratio of worse than 2.50. We're talking worst in baseball here. Y'all know that I could probably pitch complete game shutouts at Petco, right? I had some fake minor league expert douche try to tell me that he's gonna turn into something because he added velocity. Don't talk to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) LOL, so let's look at some splits since he got traded. In Petco: 4 GS 3 Wins 24 IP 22 K 12 BB 1.88 ERA 1.17 WHIP .190 BAA Outside Of Petco: 3 GS 12 IP 13 ER 6 K 10 BB 21 Hits Allowed That's right - he's allowed 31 hits & walks in 12 IP away from Petco. Do the math - that's a WHIP ratio of worse than 2.50. We're talking worst in baseball here. Y'all know that I could probably pitch complete game shutouts at Petco, right? I had some fake minor league expert douche try to tell me that he's gonna turn into something because he added velocity. Don't talk to me. Do you also realize that even in Petco, where he has a sparkling ERA under 2, he still has only gone 24 innings in 4 starts? With that ERA? Pitch count, pitch count, pitch count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Where's the Dexter Carter and Aaron Poreda performance threads? Oh that's right. That wouldn't serve the obvious purpose here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Nordhagen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) LOL, so let's look at some splits since he got traded. In Petco: 4 GS 3 Wins 24 IP 22 K 12 BB 1.88 ERA 1.17 WHIP .190 BAA Outside Of Petco: 3 GS 12 IP 13 ER 6 K 10 BB 21 Hits Allowed That's right - he's allowed 31 hits & walks in 12 IP away from Petco. Do the math - that's a WHIP ratio of worse than 2.50. We're talking worst in baseball here. Y'all know that I could probably pitch complete game shutouts at Petco, right? I had some fake minor league expert douche try to tell me that he's gonna turn into something because he added velocity. Don't talk to me. Well, that's true, but that would tend to raise a few doubts about Peavy, wouldn't it? And I LIKE the trade -- just think it's important to be consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 10:51 PM) Well, that's true, but that would tend to raise a few doubts about Peavy, wouldn't it? And I LIKE the trade -- just think it's important to be consistent. Check out some of Peavy's road splits over the years: 2007: 15 GS 10-1 Record 98 IP 101 K 34 BB 2.57 ERA 1.05 WHIP .195 BAA 2005: 13 GS 6-4 Record 87 IP 86 K 23 BB 2.98 ERA 1.12 WHIP .229 BAA 2004: 13 GS 8-3 Record 81 IP 78 K 22 BB 2.33 ERA 1.19 WHIP .246 BAA 2006 & 2008 were nothing to write home about, but when you add it all up, you have one of the best road SPs in the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 08:33 PM) 2006 & 2008 were nothing to write home about, but when you add it all up, you have one of the best road SPs in the business. This would be because he's flat-out one of the best SPs in the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 The Padres love the deal because they got out of Peavy's contract. The guys the Sox traded all have ability, but everyone in baseball knows that talent-for-talent it is lopsided in the Sox' favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Yeah, if you get the #1 pitcher, you pretty much win the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 MOST PLAYERS WORTH A s*** IN ANY SPORT PLAY BETTER AT HOME!!!!!! I LIKE BEING IN MY HOUSE BETTER THAN THE DOUCHE'S DOWN THE BLOCK!!!!!! THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH NICK SWISHER. ALSO THERE ARE MORE HOME RUNS HIT AT THE CELL BECAUSE THE SOX ARE A POWER TEAM AND THEY PLAY HALF OF THEIR GAMES THERE. Sorry for the caps, carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) MOST PLAYERS WORTH A s*** IN ANY SPORT PLAY BETTER AT HOME!!!!!! Yes, the vast majority of SPs are much more comfortable at home, which makes Peavy's road accomplishments all the more amazing. Also, Clayton Richard isn't too familiar with Petco as of yet, but that isn't stopping him from putting up great home numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) I am not criticizing the trade for Peavy. Another gutsy go for broke move by our GM. To say that we automatically won the trade big time before Peavy even throws a pitch is a bit premature. Richard should be a decent back end of the rotation guy. All the Padres need is for one of the other three players to be productive and then the trade is OK as far as they're conerned. The Sox need Peavy to be the ace he's been advertised as. Again, I'm not second guessing or criticizing the trade, but as is usual you need the luxury of time before you can begin to evaluate it properly. Edited September 3, 2009 by SI1020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I think we should just have a former-player thread, for all this stuff. Seems silly to start new threads about it. Agreed. Make it a sticky with the AL Central and MLB threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hope they do because they got raped. At least maybe they can find something positive to hold on to. Some Sox fans I feel are too defensive. They didn't get raped. They got some good talent in the trade. Hopefully Peavy will pan out. In this day and age you never know with starting pitchers. You can't guarantee me Peavy will be outstanding in the Cell, you just can't. I hope he is next year. I hope he's a great No. 1 but there are no guarantees and the Pods didn't get raped on the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) Where's the Dexter Carter and Aaron Poreda performance threads? Oh that's right. That wouldn't serve the obvious purpose here. 1. Richard has been solid for the Padres since the trade; he had one bad start that skewed his stats. He is 4-1 for a last place team. 2. Carter is not a major leaguer; stats not relevant yet. 3. Don't have an obvious purpose. All I said was I think the Pads like the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Richard is 4-1 for the Pods? Me thinks we could have used him on the road trip from hell which only ended our season while Peavy was rehabbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 01:28 AM) Richard is 4-1 for the Pods? Me thinks we could have used him on the road trip from hell which only ended our season while Peavy was rehabbing. he has two quality starts with the Padres, these past two. And in 2 of the wins he got, he only went 5.2 IP, and gave up 3 and 4 runs. The Sox would not have won those starts. It's why W-L is one of the worst statistics to use in regards to pitcher evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 01:28 AM) Richard is 4-1 for the Pods? Me thinks we could have used him on the road trip from hell which only ended our season while Peavy was rehabbing. Richard certainly isn't the difference between third and first place. If the Sox waited until the offseason, there was a pretty good chance Peavy would have had more suitors. Its a great trade. Peavy is an ace. He's better than any White Sox pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 01:28 AM) Richard is 4-1 for the Pods? Me thinks we could have used him on the road trip from hell which only ended our season while Peavy was rehabbing. We were 2-3 in the first five starts that the fifth starter went after the Peavy deal. Even if you replace those, we are still 6 out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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