mr_genius Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 you guys are overreacting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 From the official House of Representative floor rules: Members must: * Avoid characterizing another Member's personal intent or motives and discussing personalities. * Refrain from speaking disrespectfully of the Speaker, other Members, the President or Vice President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyways, it was a good speech.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 09:40 PM) "You LIE." You can argue about whether this should have been said in that forum, but i don't think anyone can disagree that, that took a lot of cajones to say. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 09:42 PM) The apology took 1.5 hours to come out. I don't understand what these posts are referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 07:39 AM) I don't understand what these posts are referring to. On the live-stream I didn't catch what the heckler actually said. Was it "Liar!" or "You lie!" It was an ugly moment in the Congress and I don't remember anyone heckling a president's speech before. But it is, in fact, the GOP's current position. Their position is to demonize this man. Karl Rove's op-ed on the speech went up on the WSJ website before the speech was even over, declaring it a failure and nothing new. But there was something clarifying about a Southern good ol' boy yelling "Liar" at the president over illegal immigration. That's what the GOP now is: the worst aspects of the old Democratic party combined with a nihilism that is only eclipsed by its catastrophic governance for the past eight years. Defeating these morons and actually creating a discourse for reform is what we elected Obama to do. But they still insist on doing it to themselves, don't they? That's the silver lining. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 07:47 AM) LINK I could hardly read that with out gagging on the irony. Yes, the Republicians have some how invented demonizing the President. GMAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 07:47 AM) LINK I had forgotten about the speech last night, and now understand. What a jackass. It doesn't take cajones to be an idiot in a crowd, it just means being loud with your stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 07:54 AM) I could hardly read that with out gagging on the irony. Yes, the Republicians have some how invented demonizing the President. GMAB. Fortunately, no one said that. What the author did say, though, was right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 There's no doubt that Joe Wilson will become a wingnut celebrity. Benen: Bruce Bartlett noted this morning, "He's become the new Sarah Palin of the Republican Party, where one's popularity is in inverse proportion to one's stupidity -- the stupider a Republican is these days the more popular he or she becomes." Here's an illustration of this equation. The wingnuts might love him, but Wilson's opponent raised $41,000 last night based on Wilson's disrespectful outburst. $41,000 in a couple hours. Good job, Wilson! LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Not sure if this was brought up or not yet. Seems when Obama tried to tell us all that a woman had her insurance cancelled because of acne, he didn't tell us the whole truth. It was acne and a rapid heartbeat which she knowlingly concealed from her insurance company. But hey acne, rapid heartbeat, all the same, right? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...ft=1&f=1001 One of Barton's constituents, Robin Beaton of Waxahachie, Texas, did know that her health history included acne and a rapid heartbeat. But she didn't think they were relevant to her current health and left them off her application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Her health insurance was still canceled because she had health care needs for completely unrelated issues.. That doesn't exactly make the health insurance industry look like less of douchebags. Edited September 10, 2009 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It just makes Obama a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) It just makes Obama a liar. You better apologize for that. You have less then 1.5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 08:51 AM) LINK That's not inverse proportion, its direct proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) It just makes Obama a liar. How is that the case? What exactly did Obama say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 10:18 AM) That's not inverse proportion, its direct proportion. Ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 UPDATE: The tally is up to $100,000 raised by Wilson's opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I've only seen snippets of the speech, I'll have to see if I can find it on On Demand tonight and watch it. I want to see what he said about the acne lady, and hear the jackass from SC in full context, and see what all the hubub on this speech is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Awesome, nobody here is talking about substance of the speech, only semantic dumb s*** and faux outrage at the faux outrage. Edited September 10, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 10:03 AM) Awesome, nobody here is talking about substance of the speech, only semantic dumb s*** and faux outrage at the faux outrage. I haven't seen it yet. That's my excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did 16 million people get health insurance since the last speech, or was he lying then, or is he lying now about the number of uninsured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 He said uninsured citizens this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275877.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Just wondering, are these Scare tactics? or honest debate?: ...Our deficit will grow ...More families will go bankrupt ...More businesses will close ...More Americans will lose their coverage ...And more Americans will die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 10:14 AM) He said uninsured citizens this time. So was he lying to make it seem like a larger problem in New Hampshire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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