HuskyCaucasian Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 09:58 PM) Obama himself has spent the last two years disrespecting Bush, don't feed me that crap. Bush's policies. Not that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:58 PM) Obama himself has spent the last two years disrespecting Bush, don't feed me that crap. What in the f*** does this have to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:00 PM) Bush's policies. Not that man. lol, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:04 PM) What in the f*** does this have to do with anything His has to do with people acting like disrespecting the President is something new in the last 7.5 months. It is a left wing load of crap. Talk about a propaganda machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 09:52 PM) After the 8 years of W, it is funny to see that in a Democratic thread. "I have had it with members of your party undermining our troops, undermining a commander in chief while we are at war..." —Sean Hannity, 11/05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:04 PM) What in the f*** does this have to do with anything I am arguing it's wrong to disrespect the president and he's saying that's hypocritical because he thinks by Obama disagree with bush's policies that is disrespecting the president. But my argument is that it's not disrespectful to disgree on policy... but it IS disrespectful to heckle the president because you are heckling the position, not the policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 07:57 PM) He got respect for authority (ie they shook his hand, greated him, listened respectfully), not respect for his crappy ideas. There were more than a few "Gotcha moments" for Bush. Like when he'd set up one of his straw-men. "Some say we should pull out of Iraq" or something like that, immediately hit by determined applause from the left. Some boos always. Can't remember anything as specific as this one happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:05 PM) His has to do with people acting like disrespecting the President is something new in the last 7.5 months. It is a left wing load of crap. Talk about a propaganda machine. Ok, find me a Democratic member of Congress that displayed an open act of disrespect towards President Bush (criticizing policies doesn't count) and I will shut up, otherwise just please stop with the tu quoque ad hominem false equivalencies. I expect this type of behavior from "some guy" but I've never seen an elected official do anything like that in the United States. Show me where I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States. lol would've made sense to call out President Obama where he is actually lying. just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:08 PM) Ok, find me a Democratic member of Congress that displayed an open act of disrespect towards President Bush (criticizing policies doesn't count) on national television during an important speech by the President. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:12 PM) fixed Yes this, pretty major omission on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:11 PM) lol would've made sense to call out President Obama where he is actually lying. just saying. Did you catch my post earlier? That clause is not satisfactory to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:14 PM) Did you catch my post earlier? That clause is not satisfactory to them. I know. I'm just beating a dead horse for the sake of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I guess I am the only one who remembers Bush being booed during the state of the union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:08 PM) I expect this type of behavior from "some guy" but I've never seen an elected official do anything like that in the United States. Show me where I'm wrong. "Go F*** yourself!" A pretty much elected official on the floor of the senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:20 PM) I guess I am the only one who remembers Bush being booed during the state of the union? I think we're drawing a distinction between simple booing and what went on tonight. I mentioned a few other things you could consider as backup for your side. Is it a distinction without a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) I guess I am the only one who remembers Bush being booed during the state of the union? That was from the gallery, not from Congressional floor. And that too, was disrespectful and had no place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:20 PM) I guess I am the only one who remembers Bush being booed during the state of the union? I am still trying to determine if I consider booing acceptable or not. It;s kind of the anti-applause. I need to ponder it a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:23 PM) I am still trying to determine if I consider booing acceptable or not. It;s kind of the anti-applause. I need to ponder it a bit more. Booing has been well established for years. No idea when it started, but it was before I ever watched any of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:23 PM) That was from the gallery, not from Congressional floor. And that too, was disrespectful and had no place. Even I have to call B.S. on this one. You're flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:25 PM) Even I have to call B.S. on this one. You're flat out wrong. You're right, I'm wrong on this. I am thinking of the Code Pink protests and thought that was what he was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) I guess I am the only one who remembers Bush being booed during the state of the union? I guess I don't understand whatever point you're trying to make. Me, AHB, BigSqwert, Balta, etc. were all present in that joint session of Congress and/or supported people who did that or things like that and/or other things you didn't like so therefore we can't call out Joe Wilson for doing it earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:20 PM) "Go F*** yourself!" A pretty much elected official on the floor of the senate. That has to be either McCain or Biden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 08:32 PM) That has to be either McCain or Biden? That was Cheney on the floor of the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:42 PM) That was Cheney on the floor of the Senate. lol. I'm not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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