son of a rude Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 In his final session of the regular season with reporters, general manager Ken Williams seeks improvement from within the White Sox's organization while expressing some skepticism about the free agent market because of market costs. Williams also anticipated the entire coaching staff would return but postponed an official announcement. Williams envisioned a 2010 offense more reliant on a higher on-base percentage and extra-base hits. He also said closer Bobby Jenks is under contract control. Williams didn't regret any of his deadline moves and expected Alex Rios to rebound. Williams also added this volley regarding who might return in 2010: "I know who has quit and who hasn't quit." When asked later to elaborate, Williams declined. Williams expressed his displeasure with the unearned runs and poor defense, which he requested be corrected in 2010 with infield practice closer to first pitch. http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune....rom-within.html He mentions that he wants a team with players that are reliant on OBP and extra base hits (I assume he means slugging), but he says that he wants to improve within the organization and hints that there won't be any big FA signings. I wonder how this offseason will pan out. If he wants better OBP, more extra base hits, and better defense, I wonder if he will want Nix to be playing at 2b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Read the Oney twitter from last week to see who won't be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 03:41 PM) Read the Oney twitter from last week to see who won't be back. I've read that his account was suspended. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:02 PM) I've read that his account was suspended. What did he say? Nothing important. The Sox suck, blah blah blah, Bobby is gone, etc. Same s*** everyone here is saying. Ozzie's little clubhouse runts don't exactly have Kenny's ear. Kenny is a big boy and he makes his own decisions, and I'd be surprised if he even consults Ozzie beforehand on most of them. And if Bobby goes it'll be because Kenny can get something for him and has a plan for a closer, otherwise Bobby will be here because it doesn't make sense to give up a pick and spend more money on a FA closer or trade top minor league talent for somebody else's closer when all we have to do is offer arb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) Read the Oney twitter from last week to see who won't be back. QUOTE (WCSox @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:02 PM) I've read that his account was suspended. What did he say? So who is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 not to be captain obvious but im sure its Dye and Dotel and a high possibility of Jenks being shipped. He already shipped off Contreras and Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) A free agent like Figgins is out of the question at this point, but I still think the FA that ends up on this team next year is Delgado. Kenny has already said that the middle of the order needs a LH stick(after Thome left) and Delgado fits the bill. On top of it, he has been linked to the Sox before, should come at a reduced rate, and can still play first if needed. I'm not crazy about it, I just think it will happen Didn't Delgado turn down a deal here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) A free agent like Figgins is out of the question at this point, but I still think the FA that ends up on this team next year is Delgado. Kenny has already said that the middle of the order needs a LH stick(after Thome left) and Delgado fits the bill. On top of it, he has been linked to the Sox before, should come at a reduced rate, and can still play first if needed. I'm not crazy about it, I just think it will happen I'm sure it won't be him as he traded for him before only to have Delgado reject him because he didn't want to play in Chicago. It wasn't like Peavy hoping it would be the Cubs or no one. He honestly didn't want to come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) Didn't Delgado turn down a deal here? He also made some disparaging comments about the city of Chicago after vetoing that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 11:42 PM) I believe so. I think it was between Toronto and the Mets, and they just offered a ton more money than the Sox. However,now that you say it, I do sort of remember a story where he bashed Chicago in some way or another. I could be way off.. Either way, things can change. Between PK, Delgado, and Floyd, the hip specialists in Chicago will make a fortune! The Floyd hip situation is really underplayed right now, but I hate hearing he might have to alter his delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:42 PM) I believe so. I think it was between Toronto and the Mets, and they just offered a ton more money than the Sox. However,now that you say it, I do sort of remember a story where he bashed Chicago in some way or another. I could be way off.. Either way, things can change. The Sox and Blue Jays had a deal in place that would have sent Delgado here but Carlos used his no-trade clause to block the deal. I can't remember his exact words but he really didn't want to play in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:45 PM) Between PK, Delgado, and Floyd, the hip specialists in Chicago will make a fortune! The Floyd hip situation is really underplayed right now, but I hate hearing he might have to alter his delivery. I agree. I hope he doesn't. Honestly, he doesn't do anything too bad in terms of pitching mechanics. I think it will alter his curve if he changes his mechanics. Heck, it did so to Barry Zito when he changed his mechanics slightly when he got to San Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) Looks likw my memory wasn't that far off. Anyone got a link to the old story? I would go digging, but I'm on my blackberry right now.. I tried to do a quick google search, but basically if you look up the peavy rejection article on padres.com, it mentions a blurb in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Scott Merkin's twitter says : http://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/4327849217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) Looks likw my memory wasn't that far off. Anyone got a link to the old story? I would go digging, but I'm on my blackberry right now.. Just off the top of my head i believe it was the deadline in '04, it was pretty obvious that Delgado's days were numbered in Toronto as he was about to become a free agent and the Jays weren't going to pay top dollar for him coming off a down year in which he spent time on the DL, he promised Jay's management that he wouldn't use his no-trade to block any potential deals but when the Sox made a push to acquire him he did exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) Looks likw my memory wasn't that far off. Anyone got a link to the old story? I would go digging, but I'm on my blackberry right now.. IIRC there was something about Delgado refusing to stand for the National Anthem in protest of the Iraq War that got Delgado in hot water, and maybe that has something to do with the situation. Maybe it happened in the Cell and pissed off the Sox or whatever. Ozzie would be at irate if one of his own players did that, so maybe that's the connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) Scott Merkin's twitter says : http://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/4327849217 Someone should either A.) show Kenny the standings as we are in the bottom half of the league or B.) give him a refresher course on the compensatory pick rules. Though Cowley mentioned this quote today on B&B but his version had Kenny worried about the $$$ price of the top free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Joe Cowley is stating everywhere that Figgins will be out of the Sox price range. I couldn't agree more, as he's going to get so overpaid if the Yanks are actually interested in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) Scott Merkin's twitter says : http://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/4327849217 Kenny Williams: "No. 1, I don’t like what I see on the free agent market, and what I do like, it’s going to cost you a No. 1 pick. " Check your team's record, Kenny. They f***ing blow. You won't have to give up your first rounder, so get that excuse out of your vocabulary. You'll need a better one, like "Hmm, I don't know why the fans haven't been showing up? Could it be the economy? Could it be that the team I build sucks big hairy dog dick?" Use that one again, Kenny. That'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 06:57 PM) Joe Cowley is stating everywhere that Figgins will be out of the Sox price range. I couldn't agree more, as he's going to get so overpaid if the Yanks are actually interested in him. Yep, he's on the Score daily and says the same damn thing every day. Basically: you better start getting used to Scotty Pods. It could be real tough to watch this team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 12:59 AM) Yep, he's on the Score daily and says the same damn thing every day. Basically: you better start getting used to Scotty Pods. It could be real tough to watch this team next year. I really think Abreu will be the FA signing this offseason and play right field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) I really think Abreu will be the FA signing this offseason and play right field. Abreu in RF and Pods in LF would be one of the 5 worst defensive OF's in baseball even with Rios out there, and would certainly be the worst corner OF defensive combo in the major leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 12:08 AM) Abreu in RF and Pods in LF would be one of the 5 worst defensive OF's in baseball even with Rios out there, and would certainly be the worst corner OF defensive combo in the major leagues. Yes, but they would be the champions of called third strikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) I really think Abreu will be the FA signing this offseason and play right field. I'd love him as the DH but he's about on par with Dye in the outfield so I want none of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 07:09 PM) I'd love him as the DH but he's about on par with Dye in the outfield so I want none of that. I don't have any metrics in front of me, but I think Abreu is actually significantly worse in the OF than Dye even is. I think I read Abreu is having one of the worst defensive season ever recorded in RF. So if he is signed, that's just to be DH and a real 3rd starting OF would be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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