Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Really? In the al atleast who has been a better 1-2 combo in the bullpen then these 2? It really makes u wonder how devestating this bullpen would be if Snoch had his act together. f*** U BILLY SNOCH :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Really? In the al atleast who has been a better 1-2 combo in the bullpen then these 2? It really makes u wonder how devestating this bullpen would be if Snoch had his act together. f*** U BILLY SNOCH :fyou Shields, Weber, Donnelly, Percy Angels pen is freaking awesome. Sox pen is good too. Also like Santana, Hawkins, Guardado even though I don't like Everday Eddie very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 uhhhh good.....but I'd take the LA and ATL duo's over them. They're the best closer by comittee group out there/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Shields, Weber, Donnelly, Percy Angels pen is freaking awesome. Sox pen is good too. Also like Santana, Hawkins, Guardado even though I don't like Everday Eddie very much. I agree those guys r good. But as far as a 1-2 combo. Gordon and Marte have pretty carried the pen these last 2 months. Their numbers r f***in filthy...And I meant in the al by the way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 You have to consider Benitez and Rivera now as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Angels Two Guys Donnelly: 0-0, 2 SV, 50 INN, .036 ERA Percival: 0-2, 22 SV, 32.0 INN, 2.25 ERA If you Count Shields: 2-1, 1 SV, 74.1 INN, 1.82 ERA Weber: 2-0, 53.0 INN, 3.06 ERA K Rod: 5-2, 1 SV, 53.1 INN, 3.04 ERA They are right up there though as the best in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 uhhhh good.....but I'd take the LA and ATL duo's over them. They're the best closer by comittee group out there/ He said the AL. Put Smoltz on any team and their bullpen ERA goes down big time immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 The worst thing that has happened to these 2 was that Marte WASN"T picked as one of the top 7 LHs out of the bullpen in the sportingnews last week's magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 The worst thing that has happened to these 2 was that Marte WASN"T picked as one of the top 7 LHs out of the bullpen in the sportingnews last week's magazine. Marte is a stud and no one has even heard of him. I dont mind him staying our secret weapon though. I just f***ing hope hes still healthy and always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Marte is a stud and no one has even heard of him. I dont mind him staying our secret weapon though. I just f***ing hope hes still healthy and always will be. He won't be secret when he pitches postseason style. He will be the K-Rod of '03. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 He won't be secret when he pitches postseason style. He will be the K-Rod of '03. I don't think he is any kind of a secret to the AL's hitters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Marte is freakin amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 i just read somewhere that marte has seven blown saves. tied for most in the AL. i was amazed by that. marte has been throwing darts lately. almost untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 i just read somewhere that marte has seven blown saves. tied for most in the AL. i was amazed by that. marte has been throwing darts lately. almost untouchable. As YASNY and others said before, blown saves happen very often for middle relievers and setup men. All they have to do to get tagged with a BS is come in in the 7th or 8th with runners already on, and despite the number of outs, if they allow the runners to score and relinquish the lead, it counts as a BS. Marte and Gordon have both been awesome at the typical 9th inning save though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Yankees and Angels have better pens in the AL. Marte and Gordon aren't the best at what they do but they're good at getting done what needs to be done..... most of the time. As for the NL, I love the duo of Dotel and Wagner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieOnRitalin Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Agreed... Dotel and Wagner are the best 1-2 combo in baseball As for the AL? The Angels bullpen is clearly the best... But their starting pitching is horrible...You ever look at some of those Angel boxscores? Thier starters go 5 1/3 and the bull pen cleans up the mess... Its ridiculous... Yankees Bullpen is always going to be solid I'd rank them like this Donnely-Percy Benitez-Rivera Marte-Gordon Hawkins-Guardado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Agreed... Dotel and Wagner are the best 1-2 combo in baseball As for the AL? The Angels bullpen is clearly the best... But their starting pitching is horrible...You ever look at some of those Angel boxscores? Thier starters go 5 1/3 and the bull pen cleans up the mess... Its ridiculous... Yankees Bullpen is always going to be solid I'd rank them like this Donnely-Percy Benitez-Rivera Marte-Gordon Hawkins-Guardado I would add Brad lidge to that combo and make it the best 3 combo. Anyone of them can close games and they all throw the ball 97+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Agreed... Dotel and Wagner are the best 1-2 combo in baseball As for the AL? The Angels bullpen is clearly the best... But their starting pitching is horrible...You ever look at some of those Angel boxscores? Thier starters go 5 1/3 and the bull pen cleans up the mess... Its ridiculous... Yankees Bullpen is always going to be solid I'd rank them like this Donnely-Percy Benitez-Rivera Marte-Gordon Hawkins-Guardado no off to you, but if you think the sox are #3, you are sadly mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Agreed... Dotel and Wagner are the best 1-2 combo in baseball As for the AL? The Angels bullpen is clearly the best... But their starting pitching is horrible...You ever look at some of those Angel boxscores? Thier starters go 5 1/3 and the bull pen cleans up the mess... Its ridiculous... Yankees Bullpen is always going to be solid I'd rank them like this Donnely-Percy Benitez-Rivera Marte-Gordon Hawkins-Guardado I would add Brad lidge to that combo and make it the best 3 combo. Anyone of them can close games and they all throw the ball 97+ I'd take Shuey/Gagne over Wagner/Dotel although the Lefty/Rigthy combo makes it real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I just hope we have these two as long as Flash can pitch well. He throws the ball so well you would never think he was 36. He throws like he is 26. As long as we have those two throwing well, our pen will always have to be respected. Add another good arm, and we have quite the trio. Anyways, when Nen is healthy, Felix Rodriguez and Nen are filthy as well. And if you think Hawkins and Guardado are in the top 5, you are sadly mistaken. Top 10, maybe. But not top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Flash and Marte have done the job. Wouldn't bother me a bit if we extended them right now for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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