bmags Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 things we've learned since then: Fed is confirmed to be on his chest. Sources say it was not a suicide. Rumblings that there was duct tape around his neck. Great timing. I have already intimated that this killer will have acted on his own accord. But, my point is, a US congresswoman and a TV host with a 2.5 mill audience are making completely inciteful and insanely inaccurate and untrue comments, and we're being told by you to just laugh them off. Is it AS possible that this was a dumbass meth dealer not understanding that by sending a message to the feds to stay out they would be getting the opposite? Of course. Is it possible the murderer was just bats*** insane? That is not just a possibility, that is an absolute truth. and finally: That's right, none of those other forms encourage violence, but some sort of round about way of saying that the government might come after you, in the context of something that the majority of the country doesn't even realize actually happened... Yes THAT will be actually something that causes violence. I'm just going to take from this, since because kap is allowed to run free and act like this, we all are, that you are implying that michelle bachmann is right. That this is a prescient analogy, because during an actual WORLD WAR 70 years ago, we used census data to round up a population that emigrated from an enemy country, it is analogous to a 2010 census...that will be used to map out congressional seats and see what the different populations are in the country. Census' have been done for thousands of years. What a hoax. What a travesty that you are stuck defending this scum. and you wonder why we continually make fun of you for false equivalencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2009 -> 10:40 PM) things we've learned since then: Fed is confirmed to be on his chest. Sources say it was not a suicide. Rumblings that there was duct tape around his neck. Great timing. I have already intimated that this killer will have acted on his own accord. But, my point is, a US congresswoman and a TV host with a 2.5 mill audience are making completely inciteful and insanely inaccurate and untrue comments, and we're being told by you to just laugh them off. Is it AS possible that this was a dumbass meth dealer not understanding that by sending a message to the feds to stay out they would be getting the opposite? Of course. Is it possible the murderer was just bats*** insane? That is not just a possibility, that is an absolute truth. and finally: That's right, none of those other forms encourage violence, but some sort of round about way of saying that the government might come after you, in the context of something that the majority of the country doesn't even realize actually happened... Yes THAT will be actually something that causes violence. I'm just going to take from this, since because kap is allowed to run free and act like this, we all are, that you are implying that michelle bachmann is right. That this is a prescient analogy, because during an actual WORLD WAR 70 years ago, we used census data to round up a population that emigrated from an enemy country, it is analogous to a 2010 census...that will be used to map out congressional seats and see what the different populations are in the country. Census' have been done for thousands of years. What a hoax. What a travesty that you are stuck defending this scum. and you wonder why we continually make fun of you for false equivalencies. My point is the exact same thing that the left wing has been defending, at worst. At best, it is a connection that is completely dependent on hearsay, a solid knowledge of history, and the inner anger needed for something like this to happen. Calling my point "false equivalencies" couldn't be further from the truth. The point has always been the media's effect on people. As long as I can remember, I have read about it just being happenstance, and that Hollywood, the music industry, and the video game industry shouldn't be held responsible for anything. Now that the right wing is the favored target, somehow that is going to lead to genocide. To me that is the king of "false equivalencies". It's complete garbage. Why was no one screaming to imprison any of the left wing over the last eight years if hate speech in politics leads to violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Another example of a ultra right wing media person doing what they can to invoke violence. There was no reason for Malkin to go out of her way to get the name of this school and it's principle. They are now receiving death threats. "The tension at B. Bernice Young Elementary School escalated to such a degree Thursday that the school was placed temporarily on lockdown after its principal received death threats over a YouTube video that showed nearly 20 children being taught songs lauding the president, though back-to-school night events continuing as planned Thursday night at the school." The above refers to this story. And I don't recall her or other right wingers doing the same when this happened. Edited September 27, 2009 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Why was no one screaming to imprison any of the left wing over the last eight years if hate speech in politics leads to violence? Think Oklahoma City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2009 -> 11:40 PM) things we've learned since then: Fed is confirmed to be on his chest. Sources say it was not a suicide. Rumblings that there was duct tape around his neck. Great timing. I have already intimated that this killer will have acted on his own accord. But, my point is, a US congresswoman and a TV host with a 2.5 mill audience are making completely inciteful and insanely inaccurate and untrue comments, and we're being told by you to just laugh them off. Is it AS possible that this was a dumbass meth dealer not understanding that by sending a message to the feds to stay out they would be getting the opposite? Of course. Is it possible the murderer was just bats*** insane? That is not just a possibility, that is an absolute truth. and finally: That's right, none of those other forms encourage violence, but some sort of round about way of saying that the government might come after you, in the context of something that the majority of the country doesn't even realize actually happened... Yes THAT will be actually something that causes violence. I'm just going to take from this, since because kap is allowed to run free and act like this, we all are, that you are implying that michelle bachmann is right. That this is a prescient analogy, because during an actual WORLD WAR 70 years ago, we used census data to round up a population that emigrated from an enemy country, it is analogous to a 2010 census...that will be used to map out congressional seats and see what the different populations are in the country. Census' have been done for thousands of years. What a hoax. What a travesty that you are stuck defending this scum. and you wonder why we continually make fun of you for false equivalencies. Riiight. Because Kap is sooo much different, no one else acts at all like him. Ever. Not at all. And it's funny how they are always "false equivalencies" when you don't like the direction they were aimed at. It's actually quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2009 -> 10:03 PM) Its been days, and still not a one person has made the big connection, so I am going to go ahead and do this. Realize, that the same people who try to tell us that watching violent movies doesn't cause violence, seeing murder and rape, and anything else on screen isn't responsible for how people react to it. Playing video games where the player commits acts of violence/rape/murder etc, doesn't cause any of those to happen, and violent imagery in music isn't responsible for any violence that listeners might commit, etc, but somehow, this stuff... Causes this stuff... That's right, none of those other forms encourage violence, but some sort of round about way of saying that the government might come after you, in the context of something that the majority of the country doesn't even realize actually happened... Yes THAT will be actually something that causes violence. Excuse me while I LMAO at the irony here. When I quoted Bachmann, I didn't mean that her words influence people to go kill people. I just think she is part of the far right wing, that in the past has used violence. Most of those people that tell us that we can't watch violent movies or play violent video games are usually conservatives. You know the same people who say "we just want the government out of our lives". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 10:15 AM) When I quoted Bachmann, I didn't mean that her words influence people to go kill people. I just think she is part of the far right wing, that in the past has used violence. Most of those people that tell us that we can't watch violent movies or play violent video games are usually conservatives. You know the same people who say "we just want the government out of our lives". That's just not true. In fact, I'd say the majority of "those people" are the "bleeding heart" liberal faction. A good portion of the ultra conservative "bible hugger" group would also fall into that category too. But you can't pin that on just one group, as much as you'd like to. New York's proposed video game bill last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) That's just not true. In fact, I'd say the majority of "those people" are the "bleeding heart" liberal faction. A good portion of the ultra conservative "bible hugger" group would also fall into that category too. But you can't pin that on just one group, as much as you'd like to. New York's proposed video game bill last year You have the over-regulative left and the religious right which hijacked the Republican party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) This is what happens when you demonize the Govt. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 11:59 AM) I wouldn't completely rule it out though. QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 12:10 PM) Exactly. And when Glenn Beck or Michelle Bachmann give these already unstable people the impression that the census bureau is going to put their family in a concentration camp this is what you get. Violence was inevitable. http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/1032979.html I think we can safely rule it out now. But we should probably use up the rest of the tinfoil so as to get our monies worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/1032979.html I think we can safely rule it out now. But we should probably use up the rest of the tinfoil so as to get our monies worth. I guess that's what happens when you assume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Not really. I guess hateful rhetoric only matters when it's aimed at muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) Not really. I guess hateful rhetoric only matters when it's aimed at muslims. Trying to excuse something wrong by saying someone else does something else wrong? That's the best you can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) Not really. I guess hateful rhetoric only matters when it's aimed at muslims. the fort hood guy actually turned out to be a terrorist. so i guess the haters were right. in that one specific case at least. and the victim of a evil right wing murder turned out to be a suicide. go figure. Edited November 25, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 And uhhh George Tiller, one specific case. I don't take anything I said in this thread. This doesn't change that I think Beck, et al are being incredibly irresponsible for money, and the ridiculous # of death threats needing to be checked out by the President are one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) And uhhh George Tiller, one specific case. I don't take anything I said in this thread. This doesn't change that I think Beck, et al are being incredibly irresponsible for money, and the ridiculous # of death threats needing to be checked out by the President are one example. Nice, so now you're correlating Beck with the # of death threats the president gets. Ummm hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) Nice, so now you're correlating Beck with the # of death threats the president gets. Ummm hmmm. He's personally called in around 40% of the threats. True story. Edited November 25, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 08:05 PM) He's personally called in around 40% of the threats. True story. I knew that damn red phone had to go somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I see it was natural and encouraged to destroy our dixie chicks cds after saying the inflammatory "we aren't proud of our president" statement. But criticizing someone for perpetrating mass conspiracy theories on a mainstream news network to an audience of milliions and contributing to a high charged atmospher, that's just crazy bulls***! Words don't matter, they're just blowing off steam. (unless they're muslims) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) I see it was natural and encouraged to destroy our dixie chicks cds after saying the inflammatory "we aren't proud of our president" statement. But criticizing someone for perpetrating mass conspiracy theories on a mainstream news network to an audience of milliions and contributing to a high charged atmospher, that's just crazy bulls***! Words don't matter, they're just blowing off steam. (unless they're muslims) So if I say I'm not proud of our president today, and meant it, without the Dixie Chicks reference, I'd be flamed all over the place. Hell, I might even be considered to have portrayed a death threat or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 07:29 PM) So if I say I'm not proud of our president today, and meant it, without the Dixie Chicks reference, I'd be flamed all over the place. Hell, I might even be considered to have portrayed a death threat or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) I see it was natural and encouraged to destroy our dixie chicks cds after saying the inflammatory "we aren't proud of our president" statement. Does Glenn Beck have any CD's? If so, smash them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) So if I say I'm not proud of our president today, and meant it, without the Dixie Chicks reference, I'd be flamed all over the place. Hell, I might even be considered to have portrayed a death threat or something. And you'd be a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 09:53 PM) And you'd be a racist. and we have a winner! end the thread, no post is going to beat that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I wish you guys could read what the words that were actually used in some of these threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) I see it was natural and encouraged to destroy our dixie chicks cds after saying the inflammatory "we aren't proud of our president" statement. But criticizing someone for perpetrating mass conspiracy theories on a mainstream news network to an audience of milliions and contributing to a high charged atmospher, that's just crazy bulls***! Words don't matter, they're just blowing off steam. (unless they're muslims) Wow. FOX NEWS is now mainstream. I like the new bmags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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