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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 05:52 PM)
What would we have lost by just releasing him in mid-September? The guy is completely worthless.

Any time you have a guy with decent speed, you have the ability to develop him in to something useful. You don't succeed very often, but if you could get through his skull, he could be a decent backup.

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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 05:59 PM)
Garcia 5 shutout innings.

How can people not be pumped about having this guy in the 5th starter role to start next season? Yeah, maybe he has a flop or two, but he sure has given us outings down the stretch this year, and he has a whole nother offseason to recover.

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QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 09:17 PM)
It is guaranteed.

Oh, I see. There is a two-season provision. He will fall short of the one season provision, but will make it on the two-year vesting provision. That's not going to be a good contract for Detroit next year. Or this year. $18 million. Ouch.

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It's official: Magglio Ordonez under contract for $18M in 2010

 

Detroit -- In his third at-bat Tuesday evening, Magglio Ordonez reached on an error by Royals third baseman Alex Gordon.

 

Oh, yeah, and he also guaranteed himself $18 million next year.

 

Batting in the bottom of the fifth inning, the Tigers right fielder picked up his 1,080th plate appearance since the start of 2008 -- and that's the magic number that automatically triggers his hefty option for 2010.

 

Ordonez signed with the Tigers ahead of the 2005 season for five years and $75 million guaranteed. And that deal paid dividends, for certain: Ordonez hit the walk-off homer that sent the Tigers to the World Series in 2006, then hit .363 to win a batting title in 2007.

 

That vesting option, however, has been a source of great debate this season as Ordonez, 35, hasn't looked like the All-Star of old.

 

Ordonez had an extremely rough time in the first half, batting just .260 before the break -- a slump that led manager Jim Leyland to announce in early July that Ordonez would only platoon with Clete Thomas, playing only when the Tigers were facing a left-hander.

 

That situation didn't last, and that's Ordonez's doing. Entering Tuesday night's game, his average was up to .296 thanks to a hot stretch in which he batted .402 since the beginning of August. But there's actually a sobering reality to that .402 -- 34 of the 43 hits were singles.

 

The power and run production simply haven't returned as the average has climbed. While he's up to .296, he has just seven home runs and 40 RBIs. The last time Ordonez had a completely healthy season in which he didn't hit at least 21 homers and 99 RBIs was 1998, his rookie season with the White Sox.

 

The Tigers likely will be on Ordonez Watch next season, too. He's up to 457 plate appearances for this season and if he reaches 1,080 between this year and next, he'll automatically activate a $15 million deal for 2011.

 

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 08:38 PM)
Garcia has just been amazing. If he could find say 92-93 on his fastball over the winter, our starting rotation should be awesome next year.

Even if he doesn't- the guy throws nasty junk pitches that keep most hitters unbalanced. Freddy has proved his worth to this team.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 06:38 PM)
Garcia has just been amazing. If he could find say 92-93 on his fastball over the winter, our starting rotation should be awesome next year.

Heck, he's proven in the past he can be moderately (ERA in the 4's) successful if he's throwing 89 on the fastball but is also throwing strikes and has that split finger working. The question is the number of innings his arm will be ready for next year. He gets to 92 again with the fastball and his ERA could well be below 4.

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