knightni Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Atd....p&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Ditching Rios was probably a positive for Toronto. Hope I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'm saying that Ricciardi ended up with egg on his face because he got so much bad press for having to give away Rios because of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 05:44 PM) I'm saying that Ricciardi ended up with egg on his face because he got so much bad press for having to give away Rios because of the contract. Frankly though...he's the one who signed him to that contract. Ditto Wells. You pay GM's to be smarter than the other GM's in the league. If they can't do that, you try other ones. I don't like the Padres dumping Towers, but Riccardi's teams are losing because of how he's spent his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 08:07 PM) Frankly though...he's the one who signed him to that contract. Ditto Wells. You pay GM's to be smarter than the other GM's in the league. If they can't do that, you try other ones. I don't like the Padres dumping Towers, but Riccardi's teams are losing because of how he's spent his money. I think his stalemate with pretty much everyone in regards to Halladay helped his termination as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 06:40 PM) I think his stalemate with pretty much everyone in regards to Halladay helped his termination as well. There's a lot to it, but I don't think anyone can seriously come out and say that he was fired without cause or that he'd done a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 05:44 PM) I'm saying that Ricciardi ended up with egg on his face because he got so much bad press for having to give away Rios because of the contract. Maybe. But he WAS able to dump Rios, and he may end up looking like a genius in another year or two. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 06:40 PM) I think his stalemate with pretty much everyone in regards to Halladay helped his termination as well. I agree that this was a major factor. His stubbornness in the Halladay negotiations was downright illogical. The other big blows were B.J. Ryan and the horrible contract he gave to Wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Blue Jays ownership loosened the strings a little bit and let him spend, and he didn't do anything to help the team win. That, and a combination of the Ryan, Rios, and Wells contracts, as well as not dealing Halladay when he had some great offers on the table as well as not getting a damn thing for Rios really killed his chances of coming back and GMing next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) I think getting rid of the Rios contract would be the #1 argument Ricciardi had in favor of being retained, so I don't get the thread title. The Halladay fiasco and not trading him at peak value this summer was probably the last straw for J.P., and the Ryan and Wells contracts didn't help him at all either obviously. Edited October 10, 2009 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:20 PM) I think getting rid of the Rios contract would be the #1 argument Ricciardi had in favor of being retained, so I don't get the thread title. The Halladay fiasco and not trading him at peak value this summer was probably the last straw for J.P., and the Ryan and Wells contracts didn't help him at all either obviously. Ricc is the one who signed him to that contract in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Don't forget Kevin Towers of San Diego was fired too...wonder if dealing Jake Peavy had anything to do with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Oct 13, 2009 -> 12:58 PM) Don't forget Kevin Towers of San Diego was fired too...wonder if dealing Jake Peavy had anything to do with that? The Padres are in full salary-dump/rebuild mode right now, so I doubt that dumping Peavy's contract hurt him that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Oct 13, 2009 -> 02:58 PM) Don't forget Kevin Towers of San Diego was fired too...wonder if dealing Jake Peavy had anything to do with that? Firing Towers was just dumb. The only thing i could think of is that he feuded with the new ownership about the dumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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