NorthSideSox72 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (balfanman @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 07:43 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-21-arizona-fall-league-oct21,0,4568224.story It also looks like the Sox are trying to fit Cassel into the long relief role next season. They may see Carrasco moving to the 7th inning role. The byword for Cassel, who split 2009 between Double A and Triple A, is "consistency. With the style of pitcher I am and where I am in the organization, I see myself as a spot starter or a long-relief, multiple-innings guy. I'm happy they made a move with me last summer to see how I did out of the bullpen." Well, that is what Justin is shooting for, but that doesn't mean its what the Sox plan to do. I am not sure Cassel has major league stuff. I thought he did at one time, but I am doubtful now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) Well, that is what Justin is shooting for, but that doesn't mean its what the Sox plan to do. I am not sure Cassel has major league stuff. I thought he did at one time, but I am doubtful now. Cassel's variation in velocity really worries me. There's no consistency (or life) behind that fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 08:07 AM) Well, that is what Justin is shooting for, but that doesn't mean its what the Sox plan to do. I am not sure Cassel has major league stuff. I thought he did at one time, but I am doubtful now. I don't know for sure if Cassel is still in the Sox long relief plans or not but the last line suggests that the Sox thought it might be a possibility at the time. If he can at least throw strikes he would be an alright option in blow out games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 08:30 AM) Cassel's variation in velocity really worries me. There's no consistency (or life) behind that fastball. I guess I haven't seen the inconsistency in velocity. My worries are other things. First, his fastball doesn't top 90, and is usually lower than that. You can get away with that in the majors, if you have great movement and great control, can induce a lot of ground balls, etc.. But look at his walk numbers last year, they went way up - so the lack of control is problematic. And I haven't seen anythign in scouting reports telling me he has any plus moving pitches, nor does he seem to be able to locate them. So really, he just doesn't have it, at least right now. Also, its disturbing that he did so well in AA in 2008, then got beat up in the same league this year. I'm hoping this year was an aberration, and that he can get the control back, and maybe have a shot at a job some day. But he needs to step it up in AFL, and ST next year, and AAA next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (balfanman @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 05:43 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-2...0,4568224.story It also looks like the Sox are trying to fit Cassel into the long relief role next season. They may see Carrasco moving to the 7th inning role. The byword for Cassel, who split 2009 between Double A and Triple A, is "consistency. With the style of pitcher I am and where I am in the organization, I see myself as a spot starter or a long-relief, multiple-innings guy. I'm happy they made a move with me last summer to see how I did out of the bullpen." By the way, I just want to say, you need to post more. You are an excellent poster. I'd be curious to see how the Sox plan on using Cassel in the long-relief role because I question whether he has the command of his "so-so" stuff to succeed at the major league level. What he does against some of the elite prospects in the game in the AFL should be a good indicator for Kenny as to where you can project a guy like Cassel. I'd personally rather see a guy like Torres, but the Sox love carrying two lefties and Cassel's pretty muc our only other option because I highly doubt Randy Williams will be back on the 25 man roster (at least I hope not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:19 AM) By the way, I just want to say, you need to post more. You are an excellent poster. I'd be curious to see how the Sox plan on using Cassel in the long-relief role because I question whether he has the command of his "so-so" stuff to succeed at the major league level. What he does against some of the elite prospects in the game in the AFL should be a good indicator for Kenny as to where you can project a guy like Cassel. I'd personally rather see a guy like Torres, but the Sox love carrying two lefties and Cassel's pretty muc our only other option because I highly doubt Randy Williams will be back on the 25 man roster (at least I hope not). Cassel is right-handed, unless he switched arms during the season (maybe that explains his walk rate). There are essentially NO lefty relievers in the top two tiers of the Sox' minor league system right now. Williams appears to be the only option in-house for a 2nd lefty to Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Cassel is right-handed, unless he switched arms during the season (maybe that explains his walk rate). There are essentially NO lefty relievers in the top two tiers of the Sox' minor league system right now. Williams appears to be the only option in-house for a 2nd lefty to Thornton. Wow, I've thought for like 4 years that he was a lefty. I'm a dumbass. I swear when he was drafted they announced him as a lefty and I never look at stuff like that once I get something in my head. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:25 AM) Wow, I've thought for like 4 years that he was a lefty. I'm a dumbass. I swear when he was drafted they announced him as a lefty and I never look at stuff like that once I get something in my head. My bad. For further background, check out his AAP page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 08:07 AM) Well, that is what Justin is shooting for, but that doesn't mean its what the Sox plan to do. I am not sure Cassel has major league stuff. I thought he did at one time, but I am doubtful now. to be fair, I don't think DJ Carrasco really has MLB stuff either, but he has gotten by on smoke and mirrors for two straight years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Cassel is right-handed, unless he switched arms during the season (maybe that explains his walk rate). There are essentially NO lefty relievers in the top two tiers of the Sox' minor league system right now. Williams appears to be the only option in-house for a 2nd lefty to Thornton. Like it or not, that's a position we really need to address on the FA market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:19 AM) By the way, I just want to say, you need to post more. You are an excellent poster. Thank you very much! One thing I will say though is that I try to express my thoughts as my opinions, wanting to get the feedback of others. I do not pretend to know everything, or even much of anything for that matter. One thing that I've noticed from observing this site for many years is that the posters who seem to cause the most strife and contention with others are the ones who regard there own opinions as fact and everyone else needs to get as smart as they are to be on their level. Edited October 21, 2009 by balfanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:25 AM) Wow, I've thought for like 4 years that he was a lefty. I'm a dumbass. I swear when he was drafted they announced him as a lefty and I never look at stuff like that once I get something in my head. My bad. Were you thinking of Justin Edwards maybe? Same first name, both have underwhelming stuff, taken same year in the draft, both had minor league success, etc. Edwards is the lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 10:22 AM) Were you thinking of Justin Edwards maybe? Same first name, both have underwhelming stuff, taken same year in the draft, both had minor league success, etc. Edwards is the lefty. I think I assumed from his draft day scouting report that he was a lefty and went with it. And your probably right. Probably one of the biggest gaffes I've ever had. Feel like a boob for being wrong for like 4 years on something that basic, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) I think I assumed from his draft day scouting report that he was a lefty and went with it. And your probably right. Probably one of the biggest gaffes I've ever had. Feel like a boob for being wrong for like 4 years on something that basic, haha. Damn, don't be so hard on yourself man. Cassel is so far down on the list of guys to watch that it doesn't really matter IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:33 AM) Damn, don't be so hard on yourself man. Cassel is so far down on the list of guys to watch that it doesn't really matter IMO. Haha, I'm gonna blame it on getting engaged...my useless sports info takes a backseat, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) Haha, I'm gonna blame it on getting engaged...my useless sports info takes a backseat, haha. Congratulations! I didn't know that. Now you make me feel bad for putting so much stock into useless sports info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 http://www.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?si...perwin_pddwin_1 Danks and Retherford in the lineup today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) http://www.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?si...perwin_pddwin_1 Danks and Retherford in the lineup today. CJ already with a base hit an RBI. En fuego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) I think I assumed from his draft day scouting report that he was a lefty and went with it. And your probably right. Probably one of the biggest gaffes I've ever had. Feel like a boob for being wrong for like 4 years on something that basic, haha. If that's one of the biggest gaffes you've ever had you're in great shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 02:54 PM) CJ already with a base hit an RBI. En fuego. In the 6th, he picked up another hit and RBI. 2 for 3 with 2 RBIs so far on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Homer for Danks today. His 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 FutureSox AFL Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) FutureSox AFL Update Good update. It is nice to see the hitters doing so well, even though like you said it is AZ. I am hoping that most of Danks late season slump last year was result of his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Danks singled and scored, Retherford solo homer in the first off Strasburg http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?si...pddwin_perwin_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Thats awesome. It says something when you hit a bomb off a guy like Stras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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