greg775 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Give me your brother's email address so he and I can start a Weezy fan club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) Give me your brother's email address so he and I can start a Weezy fan club. [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) Just me? And I dispute your claim he shouldn't be on a ML roster. As 25th man, he's great value as he proved late in the perfect game. He is good on D (didn't he throw out a Cub at the plate to save another game?) is fast and has value on the basepaths there. He should be on somebody's roster. I agree with you he's not a starter. Oz puts him in for defense and he immediately saves a perfect game. That's value right there. Didn't he also rip a home run last postseason vs. the Rays? I remember him hitting a blast against somebody that mattered. Give me a list of every team's 25th man. I'm sure many suck as badly as Wise. You get far too caught up in small moments over a 6 month span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Small moments?? My god. Those were all huge moments. I agree he's not a starter. I do not agree with those who say he doesn't deserve to be a 25th man. He has some value in that role. Are all 25th people on a roster stars? Wise can help a team. Is he a 400 at bat guy? God no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) Small moments?? My god. Those were all huge moments. I agree he's not a starter. I do not agree with those who say he doesn't deserve to be a 25th man. He has some value in that role. Are all 25th people on a roster stars? Wise can help a team. Is he a 400 at bat guy? God no. my god. my god. my god. Yes, 1 catch, no matter how big at the time, is a small moment. Did that catch propel the Sox to greatness this season? Did his walkoff hit change the course of the franchise? No, they didnt do s***. Im not going to get all weepy eyed and act like 1 walkoff hit gives Wise my eternal thanks, and who gives a care if it against the Yankees or Royals? It doesnt matter, in the end, the Sox had a mediocre-bad season, and part of that was starting Wise in center at the beginning of the season. Im sorry that you and your god want to annoint him the best 25th man this year, but last I checked those awards were given about the same respect as Mr Irrelevant in the NFL. How much respect is that? None. My god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) Is Dewayne your brother? No, but lets sum it up this way. Playing MLB: The Show, my OF was Pods/Rios/Quentin, with Kotsay backing up. Rios hit .380 (ok, not realistic at all, but Pods got a Gold Glove and Kotsay got one as a 4th OF) and my brother was mad I kept him on the roster instead of cutting him and calling up Virtu-Wise who was hitting a robust .220 in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 04:42 PM) Is Dewayne your brother? Is Ozzie his brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Oh Brother... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Good Bye and see ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) Small moments?? My god. Those were all huge moments. I agree he's not a starter. I do not agree with those who say he doesn't deserve to be a 25th man. He has some value in that role. Are all 25th people on a roster stars? Wise can help a team. Is he a 400 at bat guy? God no. Last year Dewayne was put on waivers. Every team in baseball could of snapped him up. Yet not one team did. Why do you think this is? He is a career minor leaguer who can't hit. He can't hit at all. Do you know how many guys are in AAA right now that run very fast, can catch everything that is in the air but can't hit major league pitching. Lots. He is not a good baseball player. Memories lie. Your memory of that single catch, or whatever specific specific moment shouldn't cloud the reality that he is not a major league player. Brian Anderson is a younger player, and I would say his diving catch in the blackout game last year is more important to the franchise than his wall catch with Buerhle. Brian could catch everything, was decently fast. Cannot hit major league pitching at all. Who knows, he may never hit major league pitching. He is gone and I don't shed a tear. Lets try and keep our 25 man roster to players who can actually contribute to winning. Getting upset because a AAAA player declared FA is kind of silly. Edited October 9, 2009 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdiego Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 11:34 AM) who was that poster that was in Wise' corner earlier in the season, cant remember his name That was me, damn proud of it too. Sure, maybe my prediction that he'd "dominate the league" was over blown;) Even me, he's biggest fan, knew he should of never been in the leadoff hitter. He should of been buried in the 9 hole, without pressure, even though many here say that don't mean a damn. He will sign with someone, for sure. Away from Greg Walker, who knows what the black Ross Gload may accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Whatever it is, it will spectacularily mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 05:51 PM) That was me, damn proud of it too. Sure, maybe my prediction that he'd "dominate the league" was over blown;) Even me, he's biggest fan, knew he should of never been in the leadoff hitter. He should of been buried in the 9 hole, without pressure, even though many here say that don't mean a damn. He will sign with someone, for sure. Away from Greg Walker, who knows what the black Ross Gload may accomplish. Walker ruined another one. Before Wise met Walker, he was a HOF type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdiego Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 07:01 PM) Walker ruined another one. Before Wise met Walker, he was a HOF type player. You said it brother, right on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 07:41 PM) You said it brother, right on. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Lets try and keep our 25 man roster to players who can actually contribute to winning This No. 25 man has contributed us to winning games. What part of that statement don't you believe? I've cited some games he's helped us win this year and last. You think his defense and speed can't help a team in the latter innings? Or as a spot starter? Give me a thorough analysis of all No. 25 players; I believe Wise will not be the worst by a long shot. I just don't agree he is a worthless major leaguer. He is not worthless. He's not a starter; he's a damn good sub. I pray he doesn't come back cause I'm sick of people blasting him when all he does is his job. I hope he's gone as well. Edited October 10, 2009 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) This No. 25 man has contributed us to winning games. What part of that statement don't you believe? I've cited some games he's helped us win this year and last. You think his defense and speed can't help a team in the latter innings? Or as a spot starter? Give me a thorough analysis of all No. 25 players; I believe Wise will not be the worst by a long shot. I just don't agree he is a worthless major leaguer. He is not worthless. He's not a starter; he's a damn good sub. I pray he doesn't come back cause I'm sick of people blasting him when all he does is his job. I hope he's gone as well. Give me, without citing his one walkoff hit and one catch, a thorough analysis of why he is a damn good sub here, I will tell you why he is not. Avg .225 OBP .265 SLG% .360 OPS .628 32 hits/142 AB 27 K 4 SB/5 CS Edited October 10, 2009 by KyYlE23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Did this topic REALLY go five pages? Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Why? His speed. He can pinch run, steal a base. Add some speed to a slow team. Let's say Paulie gets a hit in a tie game in the ninth and we want Wise in to run. Wise can run. His defense. He can come in the latter innings and help in that regard. Let's say somebody is trying for a perfect game. He can come in and sub for Pods in the ninth and maybe save that perfect game. Or if we lead by one in the ninth. I do not want him back; I'm just saying he's not worthless. The fans' hatred of him alone is a good enough reason to not bring him back. We don't need the distractions. Fans booed him; let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 10:15 PM) This No. 25 man has contributed us to winning games. What part of that statement don't you believe? I've cited some games he's helped us win this year and last. You think his defense and speed can't help a team in the latter innings? Or as a spot starter? Give me a thorough analysis of all No. 25 players; I believe Wise will not be the worst by a long shot. I just don't agree he is a worthless major leaguer. He is not worthless. He's not a starter; he's a damn good sub. I pray he doesn't come back cause I'm sick of people blasting him when all he does is his job. I hope he's gone as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) This No. 25 man has contributed us to winning games. What part of that statement don't you believe? I've cited some games he's helped us win this year and last. You think his defense and speed can't help a team in the latter innings? Or as a spot starter? Give me a thorough analysis of all No. 25 players; I believe Wise will not be the worst by a long shot. I just don't agree he is a worthless major leaguer. He is not worthless. He's not a starter; he's a damn good sub. I pray he doesn't come back cause I'm sick of people blasting him when all he does is his job. I hope he's gone as well. I am not going to waste time trying to pull together stats for the tallest midget award for worst 25th man. Wise is not a good baseball player. He can't hit, and I can find lots of guys who can run fast and catch the ball. I am glad a few brief memories have allowed you to identify with AAA roster fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) I am not going to waste time trying to pull together stats for the tallest midget award for worst 25th man. Wise is not a good baseball player. He can't hit, and I can find lots of guys who can run fast and catch the ball. I am glad a few brief memories have allowed you to identify with AAA roster fodder. I actually went to baseball reference and started looking at players with similar amounts of at bats and games played. Wise really is the 26th out of 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:27 PM) Why? His speed. He can pinch run, steal a base. Add some speed to a slow team. Let's say Paulie gets a hit in a tie game in the ninth and we want Wise in to run. Wise can run. His defense. He can come in the latter innings and help in that regard. Let's say somebody is trying for a perfect game. He can come in and sub for Pods in the ninth and maybe save that perfect game. Or if we lead by one in the ninth. I do not want him back; I'm just saying he's not worthless. The fans' hatred of him alone is a good enough reason to not bring him back. We don't need the distractions. Fans booed him; let him go. Dewayne Wise is not a particularly good base stealer, he's just not all that fast. He's not that incredible threat that waits at the end of most benches. No one fears Dewayne Wise's legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) I agree he should be gone. I would say for a guy considered a total liability, he's been a decent member of the White Sox. I don't understand why so many people hate a No. 25 roster guy; or care about him that much. I am tempted to point out the names of some guys who deserve a lot of criticism for their play this year, but seem to get a free pass by many. Wise at least did his job reasonably well; he was a decent No. 25 man; outfield sub, sub with speed. Oh wait ... the guys that failed have track records. Wise has none. And on it goes. I don't know why you say Wise isn't fast. Especially on our team he looked like Edwin Moses in his prime compared to most of our plodders. Another reason he was good to have around. Edited October 10, 2009 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 10:27 PM) Why? His speed. He can pinch run, steal a base. Add some speed to a slow team. Let's say Paulie gets a hit in a tie game in the ninth and we want Wise in to run. Wise can run. His defense. He can come in the latter innings and help in that regard. Let's say somebody is trying for a perfect game. He can come in and sub for (Alexei) in the ninth and maybe save that perfect game. Or if we lead by one in the ninth. I do not want him back; I'm just saying he's not worthless. The fans' hatred of him alone is a good enough reason to not bring him back. We don't need the distractions. Fans booed him; let him go. Outside of the outfield analogy, you just described Brent Lillibridge; who is a better base stealer and is almost 10 years younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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