Jerksticks Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Forget Abreu and Figgins. IMO they would only be transitory filler parts, not long term solutions. The purpose of this thread is to talk about young guys entering their primes who aren't usually discussed as available; kinda like Swisher was supposed to be had he not busted with us. If KW isn't going to sign a FA OF, then he has to trade for one. Here are a couple off the top of my head, and if you help me list them all, then we will more than likely discuss the guy KW eventually gets this offseason. Kemp Ethier Coughlan etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 None of those three are being traded. What motivation would the Dodgers have to trade their two best young players, who are currently leading them towards a potential World Series? Furthermore, why would the Marlins trade their potential ROY, coming off his potential ROY season? Look, for situations where the minor league system meets a head with the major league team. That’s why guys like Cody Ross, Carl Crawford, and BJ Upton might be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Kenny made that trade already--Alex Rios. People may not agree, based on his 2009 numbers with the sox. Yet Kenny is counting on Rios playing up the his large contract. I for one think he will. What I do think is the sox need a young lefty bat for the OF. I would look to a few names in the AFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Think LH middle-of-order type hitter first, position second. Sox have a lot of movable parts defensively, no too mention a DH opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 06:31 PM) Think LH middle-of-order type hitter first, position second. Sox have a lot of movable parts defensively, no too mention a DH opening. I do think plus defense is or should be up there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of a rude Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Forget Abreu and Figgins. IMO they would only be transitory filler parts, not long term solutions. The purpose of this thread is to talk about young guys entering their primes who aren't usually discussed as available; kinda like Swisher was supposed to be had he not busted with us. If KW isn't going to sign a FA OF, then he has to trade for one. Here are a couple off the top of my head, and if you help me list them all, then we will more than likely discuss the guy KW eventually gets this offseason. Kemp Ethier Coughlan etc PM me your drug dealers number. Looks like he sells some good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 We are not going to be able to do anything other than stop gap guys. Even if Kenny makes a surprise trade we all love, to keep guys that our likely in poster of soxtalk plans, we are either going to sign a guy to a 2 year contract, or trade for a guy that is a risk and hope it works out. But all the guys you mentioned, there's no reason those teams would trade them. It's like other team message boards pondering "what cheap studly IF prospects can we nab" and talking about what it takes to get Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 I think I place more importance in going for it all next year than the majority of you. If Freddy Garcia turns into an absolute steal then next year IS THE YEAR. Best rotation, our infield is set, our bullpen needs a piece, and our outfield needs 1 major piece that can also play great defense. Sign Pods too and Kotsay too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 If you are placing more importance on exclusively next year why do you care if the players are young and cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 11:24 AM) If you are placing more importance on exclusively next year why do you care if the players are young and cheap? Worked when we stole quentin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (beck72 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) What I do think is the sox need a young lefty bat for the OF. Sell low on Jeremy Hermida. The Marlins will deal him this offseason. He plays a damn good RF too. Edited October 10, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 You know what's kind of disturbing? I wouldn't mind Milton Bradley DHing and batting 5th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 i don't know if he'd be considered studly but Corey Hart would look pretty good in RF. He kind of had a down year so may be able to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 01:24 PM) If you are placing more importance on exclusively next year why do you care if the players are young and cheap? Youger players typically play way better defense. Part of me would LOVE Milton Bradley to play here. He would eat up playing for this side of town. But I don't know if his defense is what I want rotating out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Hermida is more intriguing than Hart, but neither seems disciplined enough at the plate. Does Hermida have some serious beakout potential, being only 25, because I know nothing about him. I want better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 08:55 PM) Worked when we stole quentin. That would fall more under "we need to take a flyer on someone" rather than "we need to trade for Matt Kemp" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) Youger players typically play way better defense. Part of me would LOVE Milton Bradley to play here. He would eat up playing for this side of town. But I don't know if his defense is what I want rotating out there. You should plan on Bradley getting only about 150 at bats next season if you're also counting on him to play the field. He's a DH, everyone knew it when the Cubs signed him. He'll get hurt playing the OF, he'll struggle at the plate, he'll give you 150 average to poor at bats, maybe 250-300 if you're really lucky, and then he'll explode at the fans or an ump or a manager or the press or the Nobel Peace Prize committee for no reason other than he's frustrated about how his season has gone and he doesn't know how to express it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Fred Lewis maybe...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornball Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Personally, if Tampa is willing to trade Upton that would be the target for me. For CF and leadoff. Put him in center, Rios in right. This would improve the outfield defense. He has batted leadoff most of his time in the bigs, and to a team that made it to the WS last year. This year he did not hit so well in the leadoff spot and was removed. I believe he is heading to arb for the next few years and would not break the payroll short term. May take alot to get him, but I thought they had a studdly outfielder ready to replace him or Crawford. The move of Crawford would be a hit to their season ticket sales and fan base. Upton's career OBP is 352 and his career numbers overall aren't too bad. Upton, Abreu and a little help for the pen and let's start 2010. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) Think LH middle-of-order type hitter first, position second. Sox have a lot of movable parts defensively, no too mention a DH opening. Nick Johnson would be a nice piece to add. He could play DH/1B/RF. Most likely he and konerko can split time at DH/1B and hes an OBP Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 05:05 PM) Nick Johnson would be a nice piece to add. He could play DH/1B/RF. Most likely he and konerko can split time at DH/1B and hes an OBP Machine. Nick Johnson should never, ever play the field if signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 08:06 PM) Nick Johnson should never, ever play the field if signed. I agree. I live in DC, and just last night I heard some guys in a booth behind me at a bar talking about how the Nats can probably only flip him to an AL team because everyone knows he can field a lick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I still think Aaron Cunningham would be a really nice pick-up. He's under the proverbial radar... a spare piece in the Oakland outfield... Start by offering them Josh Fields. Add another player if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) You know what's kind of disturbing? I wouldn't mind Milton Bradley DHing and batting 5th... For another team maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Ethier and Kemp, really? What could we possibly have to move for them? Those guys are all-stars in their mid 20s, their version of Carlos Quentin except not injury prone and better defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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