Balta1701 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 02:11 PM) I don't know about the bunting, but it seems pretty reasonable he can do the rest. He has a .362 career OBP in the minors. He could be Scott Podsednik with defense minus some of the bat. I'd rather look a little more in-depth in to his numbers because career numbers can be skewed by 100 ab's at too low of a level. When he's played a good chunk of a season, he's done so in: 2005, 2006, and 2009. In 2007 he was up in teh bigs for 1/2 a season at age 23 and hit .229. 2005, 21 year old in high-A, .370 OBP, .286 batting. 2006, 22 year old in AA, .346 OBP, .278 batting. 2009, 25 year old in AAA, .370 OBP, .300 batting. He started off being kinda young at every level, got an early callup but didn't do all that much, and spent 2008 hurt. A big issue appears to be strikeouts (sounds familiar). He appears to average right around 1 walk/10 PA's, which is pretty good, but he strikes out 2 times every 10 PA's or so. Full season his numbers would average 100-120 K's if they held steady from the minors to the bigs. Pods k'd 74 times last year in 537 AB's, in the weak PCL De Aza K'd 53 times in 267 AB's. He puts the ball in play a little more and he could be a solid player. Those K's will kill his OBP in the bigs though if he can't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) I'd rather look a little more in-depth in to his numbers because career numbers can be skewed by 100 ab's at too low of a level. When he's played a good chunk of a season, he's done so in: 2005, 2006, and 2009. In 2007 he was up in teh bigs for 1/2 a season at age 23 and hit .229. 2005, 21 year old in high-A, .370 OBP, .286 batting. 2006, 22 year old in AA, .346 OBP, .278 batting. 2009, 25 year old in AAA, .370 OBP, .300 batting. He started off being kinda young at every level, got an early callup but didn't do all that much, and spent 2008 hurt. A big issue appears to be strikeouts (sounds familiar). He appears to average right around 1 walk/10 PA's, which is pretty good, but he strikes out 2 times every 10 PA's or so. Full season his numbers would average 100-120 K's if they held steady from the minors to the bigs. Pods k'd 74 times last year in 537 AB's, in the weak PCL De Aza K'd 53 times in 267 AB's. He puts the ball in play a little more and he could be a solid player. Those K's will kill his OBP in the bigs though if he can't do that. He could be our Dwayne Wise replacement and that is fine with me. I agree he needs to shorten his swing and improve his contact rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) He's probably this year's Luis Tererro Edited October 21, 2009 by Al Lopez's Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) So my question is why would the Marlins give up on him and place him on waivers?? Florida has aglut of OF prospects and he got lost in the shuffle after his injuries. He may not be a viable starting candidate for the Sox, but I am sure he will get an oportunity. However, no power (8 hrs) with speed and defense could make him D Wise's replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 10:31 PM) He could be our Dwayne Wise replacement and that is fine with me. I agree he needs to shorten his swing and improve his contact rate. We think alike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 04:21 PM) I'd rather look a little more in-depth in to his numbers because career numbers can be skewed by 100 ab's at too low of a level. When he's played a good chunk of a season, he's done so in: 2005, 2006, and 2009. In 2007 he was up in teh bigs for 1/2 a season at age 23 and hit .229. 2005, 21 year old in high-A, .370 OBP, .286 batting. 2006, 22 year old in AA, .346 OBP, .278 batting. 2009, 25 year old in AAA, .370 OBP, .300 batting. He started off being kinda young at every level, got an early callup but didn't do all that much, and spent 2008 hurt. A big issue appears to be strikeouts (sounds familiar). He appears to average right around 1 walk/10 PA's, which is pretty good, but he strikes out 2 times every 10 PA's or so. Full season his numbers would average 100-120 K's if they held steady from the minors to the bigs. Pods k'd 74 times last year in 537 AB's, in the weak PCL De Aza K'd 53 times in 267 AB's. He puts the ball in play a little more and he could be a solid player. Those K's will kill his OBP in the bigs though if he can't do that. I'm not saying he will have a .360 OBP in the Majors, but if injury problems got in the way of development he could be a .330-.340 OBP guy which would make him a damn good utility guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Looks like Wise isn't coming back.... Merry Christmas everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 DeWayne Wise: II, The Sequel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't understand why everyone is calling him Weezy 2, this guy actually hit in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba43 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 06:57 AM) Looks like Wise isn't coming back.... funny Merry Christmas everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 De Aza is a tools guy. Not a lot of power, but a nice skillset. I don't see him making the team, but he'll make a nice piece of filler for AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I've always liked De Aza a lot. He had a .385 OBP in the 22 games he played with the Marlins this season. I'd have zero issues with him as a 4th/5th OF. Ozzie will love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'd rather look a little more in-depth in to his numbers because career numbers can be skewed by 100 ab's at too low of a level. When he's played a good chunk of a season, he's done so in: 2005, 2006, and 2009. In 2007 he was up in teh bigs for 1/2 a season at age 23 and hit .229. 2005, 21 year old in high-A, .370 OBP, .286 batting. 2006, 22 year old in AA, .346 OBP, .278 batting. 2009, 25 year old in AAA, .370 OBP, .300 batting. He started off being kinda young at every level, got an early callup but didn't do all that much, and spent 2008 hurt. A big issue appears to be strikeouts (sounds familiar). He appears to average right around 1 walk/10 PA's, which is pretty good, but he strikes out 2 times every 10 PA's or so. Full season his numbers would average 100-120 K's if they held steady from the minors to the bigs. Pods k'd 74 times last year in 537 AB's, in the weak PCL De Aza K'd 53 times in 267 AB's. He puts the ball in play a little more and he could be a solid player. Those K's will kill his OBP in the bigs though if he can't do that. An Ozzie concocted experiment with a man crush + Dewayne Wise genes + Jerry Owens genes = Alejandro De Aza???? Yeesh already!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I've actually liked Alejandro De Aza for a couple seasons now. I think he'll make a great 4th outfielder. The dude can play all over the field and I think he'll be very valuable to the Sox. Actually, if worse comes to worse, having a guy with Aza's positional flexibility will enable the Sox to easily carry an extra bullpen arm at critical points in the season if the bullpen becomes too taxed. This is a great move with lots of upside, he won't be a franchise player or anything, but he'll be a lot better than Mackowiak and Wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Well, looks like we're preparing for life without Wise. Thank god, because from this thread and a quick stats browsing, this guy seems to be Wise but can swing a bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 08:43 PM) He has 22 homers in 1700+ minor league ABs. Baby Ruth is what you are saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Once again, KW in stealth mode. :-) Pretty much agree with everyone else...4th OFer or a AAA filler. A move like this only has upside. He has already taken over the Ozzie's favorite player role based on his skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Oct 21, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) Is this the guy on their team that used to smear the eye black on his face lol? No this is the one that mistakenly thought a shoe was a sandwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Anyone think Pods is asking for a ridiculous amount of money, so KW scooped this guy up as a replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 02:12 PM) Anyone think Pods is asking for a ridiculous amount of money, so KW scooped this guy up as a replacement? I hope not. I don't want De Aza competing for a starting job and I don't want Pods starting either. I want an OF with a track record of hitting in the Majors who can also cover both CF and RF well. That way when Rios gets a day off we don't have to run out a s*** defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 02:10 AM) This is a great move with lots of upside, he won't be a franchise player or anything, but he'll be a lot better than Mackowiak and Wise. Rob Mackoviak really wasn't that bad. He shouldn't of been playing CF, but he worked his ass of their anyway. I'd say there's little chance of De Aza being better then Rob. That's actually not that bad a thing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) Rob Mackoviak really wasn't that bad. He shouldn't of been playing CF, but he worked his ass of their anyway. I'd say there's little chance of De Aza being better then Rob. That's actually not that bad a thing anyway. Mack was an asset and the Sox just didn't have the personnel to use him properly. Ozzie was forced to play him in CF because he didn't believe in Brian Anderson. I disagreed with the move at the time because I just didn't see Mack being anything other than a horrendous every-day defensive CFer so I questioned what real value we gained by starting him over BA. De Aza could be a great pinch-runner and defensive sub who maybe figures it out and becomes more but in no way are the Sox counting him on being anything other than a bench player and he has the tools to be a pretty valuable one, imo. I would be quite content with our 4th and 5th Of'ers being Kotsay and De Aza. Maybe the Sox go crazy and carry Kotsay, De Aza, and Pods. Either way I don't think Pods or Kotsay should be looked at as anything more than back-ups that should get 300 or so ab's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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