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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 11:38 AM)
After finding out that team won 58-0, the throw isnt all that classy by that team, but to throw a football like that behind the back is not easy

It's waaaay more difficult to throw a baseball like that 60 feet for a strike!

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 12:38 PM)
After finding out that team won 58-0, the throw isnt all that classy by that team, but to throw a football like that behind the back is not easy

 

Agreed. That throw was amazing. I've tried it.. your either not that accurate or most people just don't have the arm strength to pull that off.

 

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 12:39 PM)
It's waaaay more difficult to throw a baseball like that 60 feet for a strike!

 

Meh.. for someone whose played the game, it isn't THAT hard. I do agree that throwing a strike with it might take you a while, but throwing a small ball 60 feet behind you in a windup.. no it isn't that hard at all. And that was a very generous strike he got.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 11:34 AM)
I disagree. There was no advantage to throwing the ball like that. That was just stupid.

 

No s***, he didnt even need to do that the kid was wide open he could have just turned and thrown it over there.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 12:41 PM)
Agreed. That throw was amazing. I've tried it.. your either not that accurate or most people just don't have the arm strength to pull that off.

 

 

 

Meh.. for someone whose played the game, it isn't THAT hard. I do agree that throwing a strike with it might take you a while, but throwing a small ball 60 feet behind you in a windup.. no it isn't that hard at all. And that was a very generous strike he got.

 

I think throwing a smaller object like a baseball behind your back accurately is a hell of a lot harder. I guarantee you it would take me personally a LOT longer to throw a baseball from that distance accurately than a football. You're talking about throwing a baseball into a 4 foot area versus throwing a football simply into an area where a receiver can catch it.

 

I guess we will agree to disagree.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 09:02 AM)
after watching that video of the pitcher again, wtf is with that strikezone. That ball was high and outside

 

You have to think of the strike zone in 3D. It may be high at the front of the plate, but in the zone in the back of the plate. Plus it was coming from the same angle as a lefty throwing, so it could have been coming across and in the zone. Plus Japan IIRC has always had a liberal interpretation of the strike zone

 

What I am noting is that there are no fans in the stadium. I think this was a staged deal.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 09:02 AM)
after watching that video of the pitcher again, wtf is with that strikezone. That ball was high and outside

Are you guys kidding me? Is that really the freaking point?

 

You're talking about throwing a football in a general area on a high trajectory. The window you have to place that football is absolutely huge compared to the window you have to place that baseball.

 

I think you guys are plain nuts.

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QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 09:14 AM)
You have to think of the strike zone in 3D. It may be high at the front of the plate, but in the zone in the back of the plate. Plus it was coming from the same angle as a lefty throwing, so it could have been coming across and in the zone. Plus Japan IIRC has always had a liberal interpretation of the strike zone

 

What I am noting is that there are no fans in the stadium. I think this was a staged deal.

Actually it's the opposite. They have a very precise strike zone. Ours is actually far more liberal than theirs is.

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QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 09:18 AM)
Are you saying by rules or by actual calls?

Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying their strike zone is just bigger.

I'm not certain.

I think it was a bad call, but it was close, and he just wanted to give him the strike for the sake of drama.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 09:22 AM)
Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying their strike zone is just bigger.

I'm not certain.

I think it was a bad call, but it was close, and he just wanted to give him the strike for the sake of drama.

 

I am remembering when US players would play over there, the hitters were amazed at how high their strike zone was. At the time getting a call in the US over the belt was rare, there, all the way to letters on the uni was called.

 

I do think this was staged, again, there are no fans in the seats. So either it was staged or it was in Pittsburg.

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The japanese league strike zone is most definitely smaller. They give almost nothing inside, less outside than in the mlb, and they do not call strikes at the letters. Strikes at the letters would drastically cut down on walk rates, which is not the case. Matsuzaka was excited to come to the states to take advantage of the fact that he could work both the inside and outside edges better.

 

I have followed japanese baseball rather closely for roughly eight years now... and for a fact their strike zone being larger compared to ours is just a myth. I have heard from people too close to the game (as in they literally attend the games) say as much to believe otherwise.

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QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 10:02 AM)
The japanese league strike zone is most definitely smaller. They give almost nothing inside, less outside than in the mlb, and they do not call strikes at the letters. Strikes at the letters would drastically cut down on walk rates, which is not the case. Matsuzaka was excited to come to the states to take advantage of the fact that he could work both the inside and outside edges better.

 

I have followed japanese baseball rather closely for roughly eight years now... and for a fact their strike zone being larger compared to ours is just a myth. I have heard from people too close to the game (as in they literally attend the games) say as much to believe otherwise.

 

My impressions are old, so I assume they have devolved much like mlb.

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QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 10:02 AM)
The japanese league strike zone is most definitely smaller. They give almost nothing inside, less outside than in the mlb, and they do not call strikes at the letters. Strikes at the letters would drastically cut down on walk rates, which is not the case. Matsuzaka was excited to come to the states to take advantage of the fact that he could work both the inside and outside edges better.

 

I have followed japanese baseball rather closely for roughly eight years now... and for a fact their strike zone being larger compared to ours is just a myth. I have heard from people too close to the game (as in they literally attend the games) say as much to believe otherwise.

This is what I thought as well, but I wasn't certain. Don't they call their zone with much more consistency as well (less variation from umpire to umpire)?

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 10:25 AM)
This is what I thought as well, but I wasn't certain. Don't they call their zone with much more consistency as well (less variation from umpire to umpire)?

 

100% correct. There is less variation because npb umpires stay in just one league.

 

Ever since 2000 (when game calling went to s***) umpires call games in both leagues and there are clearly two different strike zones in the american league and national league, which is the reasoning for the lack of consistency. It's hard to appease both leagues at once... and from what i have heard many umps had a hard time dealing with it. The mlb zone has never been quite as big as this decade, that is for damn sure.

 

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