Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws Have the White Sox considered Jayson Nix as their starting second baseman? Nix can hit as many home runs as Paul Konerko and steal as many bases as Scott Podsednik, and with work, he can be a great second baseman. Can we expect Nix as the starting 2010 second baseman? -- Rob, Tinley Park, Ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 07:24 AM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws Great stuff.... In fact, borderline classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Wow. That is just terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) Wow. That is just terrible. I am pretty sure that Rob from Tinley knew exactly what he was doing.... I might be giving our fans a little too much credit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I have to think he was probably joking, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 To be fair, Paul Konerko hit 18 home runs in 2003, and Scott Podsednik stole 12 bases in both 2007 and 2008. Given 600 PAs, it's not impossible that Jayson Nix could hit 18 homers and steal 12 bases, given that he hit 12 homers and stole 10 bases in 290 PAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 11:43 AM) To be fair, Paul Konerko hit 18 home runs in 2003, and Scott Podsednik stole 12 bases in both 2007 and 2008. Given 600 PAs, it's not impossible that Jayson Nix could hit 18 homers and steal 12 bases, given that he hit 12 homers and stole 10 bases in 290 PAs. Seriously though, I don't understand Nix being a starter. I love him as a bench player, but I remember at a game I went to with my brother, his friend works for the Sox and desperately wants the Sox to sell Nix while he has high value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 11:43 AM) To be fair, Paul Konerko hit 18 home runs in 2003, and Scott Podsednik stole 12 bases in both 2007 and 2008. Given 600 PAs, it's not impossible that Jayson Nix could hit 18 homers and steal 12 bases, given that he hit 12 homers and stole 10 bases in 290 PAs. Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SockMe Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 10:50 AM) I have to think he was probably joking, right? hahahaha probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Joke's on them, people who value players like Nix don't look at stolen bases as being that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 04:34 AM) Joke's on them, people who value players like Nix don't look at stolen bases as being that important. 1. Nix can and does steal bases. 2. Stolen bases aren't that important especially not in replacement for OBP or SLG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Chris Getz hit as many homeruns as David Eckstein and stole as many bases as Brandon Phillips. Must be some kinda of grinder-superstar hybrid. Regardless, it sounds tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Nov 1, 2009 -> 11:53 PM) 1. Nix can and does steal bases. 2. Stolen bases aren't that important especially not in replacement for OBP or SLG. The second statement is a fallacy and it contributes to the stereotype that "statheads" think stolen bases are worthless. Stolen bases DO matter, and a player that can steal bases DOES have value IF said player steals at an acceptable rate. No they do not replace OBP or SLG but nobody is saying they do either (especially OBP) so nobody should be trying to argue against a point that's never made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) The second statement is a fallacy and it contributes to the stereotype that "statheads" think stolen bases are worthless. Stolen bases DO matter, and a player that can steal bases DOES have value IF said player steals at an acceptable rate. No they do not replace OBP or SLG but nobody is saying they do either (especially OBP) so nobody should be trying to argue against a point that's never made. I was exaggerating for sure, but I don't think I've seen anyone here try to use stolen bases as a selling point for Nix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 09:19 AM) Chris Getz hit as many homeruns as David Eckstein and stole as many bases as Brandon Phillips. Must be some kinda of grinder-superstar hybrid. Regardless, it sounds tasty. Just because a thread is about Jayson Nix doesn't mean you always have to bring up Chris Getz in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 10:29 AM) Just because a thread is about Jayson Nix doesn't mean you always have to bring up Chris Getz in it... Some people have trouble dealing with the fact that the Sox have recognized Getz as a solid ballplayer, contact hitter, and future leadoff man while seeing Nix as a defensively challenged K machine that likely won't be on the major league roster next season. Edited November 2, 2009 by hitlesswonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 This offseason sucks already. This thread shouldn't have gotten more than 4 responses, but watch it turn into 15 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 10:29 AM) Just because a thread is about Jayson Nix doesn't mean you always have to bring up Chris Getz in it... Where else was this thread going to go ChiSox? Since when does having a thread (albeit a comical one) that is critical of Jayson Nix, a guy who should be competing for Chris Getzs' job has nothing to do with Chris Getz? And can we be done with the ""this organization has recognized Getz's talent crap?" This organization wanted to start Jerry Owens and Dewayne Wise over the likes of Carlos Quentin and Nick Swisher over the last couple of years. I'm very unconcerned with what Ozzie thinks is right, and more concerned with what the numbers and a discerning eye tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 01:22 PM) Where else was this thread going to go ChiSox? Since when does having a thread (albeit a comical one) that is critical of Jayson Nix, a guy who should be competing for Chris Getzs' job has nothing to do with Chris Getz? And can we be done with the ""this organization has recognized Getz's talent crap?" This organization wanted to start Jerry Owens and Dewayne Wise over the likes of Carlos Quentin and Nick Swisher over the last couple of years. I'm very unconcerned with what Ozzie thinks is right, and more concerned with what the numbers and a discerning eye tell me. It had nothing to do with Chris Getz when it was only about Jayson Nix. You've brought the Getz vs Nix argument into several threads now and you were even asked by Gage to leave it to the Getz vs Nix thread in one of them. Point is, it's just beating a dead horse. The thread was started by the poster as a lighter somewhat comical one. The Getz vs Nix argument didn't come up but by you bringing Getz into it what did you expect to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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